From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Feb 3 22:30:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CD10EC82C6 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2018 22:30:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) Received: from sonic305-4.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com (sonic305-4.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com [74.6.133.43]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DCF447E6F7 for ; Sat, 3 Feb 2018 22:30:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pathiaki2@yahoo.com) X-YMail-OSG: jrMwy_AVM1mNaimjGRfiiFlGOqhCztdLpxuEft7.earR4LswK8iy00.bztLCF9Q xWh5gMDuJMdj1mFogDkFPcRLpGxg8VUYAYKOE5lQn5HLPBryszxVufbXmNfYli_yfhTj7Wo4MvH0 YxyVvbDAwhHaqiljjo9jL.rfP8xJfM8ErHZQ1wnMa7aF_VHNe0dZ83tPlfqbxPl07WzsLLtflrsv YnUz3vVe8bXwVN4kzzbLDLZjRCbNe56DWMO_BiyYKWY3GV.iFHQaoRXCQHUsXDLROCdU33hEqZ2X 3WDozl98sl7642uPya1q4mOd3PsOFJPPGazn8dLxlM4RM04lrtGFiO62ufIdsNzQc8NOBCudUMB_ V5Fc5XXSqLNzVYArtnl0lBXfDAKJCPUWUN9OxuXzqzKMvOONG5YBZ6z3vbnDz2aoJTJtgTEi9brJ 5S40Hc5jPo4fbeipNW_QuzxNqgU40hZmpu9UnlAUje6Djo17qedg8hCA7TNQGY5mPi.o7lc3svOR mZIc332s21f.znw.O2l12KaBpEd0- Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic305.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 3 Feb 2018 22:30:16 +0000 Received: from smtpgate103.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (EHLO [192.168.0.201]) ([72.30.28.111]) by smtp401.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (JAMES SMTP Server ) with ESMTPA ID a38a1f87bfc03813acd05d55f82bdf32 for ; Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:30:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Response to Meltdown and Spectre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <23154.11945.856955.523027@jerusalem.litteratus.org> <5A726B60.7040606@gmail.com> <92120E50-19A7-4A44-90DF-505243D77259@kreme.com> <044e62f7-69ca-71fe-34a8-5c5cafc06f08@yahoo.com> From: Paul Pathiakis Message-ID: <0520dd84-c00c-fbf2-da1c-f6ff4c63739d@yahoo.com> Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 17:30:10 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-Antivirus: AVG (VPS 180203-0, 02/03/2018), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:30:17 -0000 http://www.zdnet.com/article/meltdown-spectre-firmware-glitch-intel-warns-of-risk-of-sudden-reboots/ The sudden reboots and non-starts have been tracked to the patch. On 2/3/2018 11:37 AM, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > On 2018-02-02, Paul Pathiakis via freebsd-questions wrote: > >> Intels patches have 'bricked' processors. Yes, made them totally >> unusable as they rushed them out the door. They pulled them immediately >> and told people to destroy them. > That is wildly exaggerated. I'm running several machines with the > microcode updates that Intel later pulled--in fact I'm typing this > on one of them--and nothing has been bricked. Intel is extremely > coy with details, but it stands to reason that the reliability > problems that caused them to retract the microcode will only appear > when the operating system actually uses the newly introduced > IBRS/IBPB/STIBP features. > --- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG. http://www.avg.com