From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 18 17:31:05 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 231561065675 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:31:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from utisoft@gmail.com) Received: from mail-iy0-f182.google.com (mail-iy0-f182.google.com [209.85.210.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E04E38FC0C for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:31:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by iagz16 with SMTP id z16so10952316iag.13 for ; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:31:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=XCEnNkDfr36bD60fStNxbZMf0VvClQnksdWSfwMPBi0=; b=Ii6lXjCb/hHjViOlI4971Y3Cf1FBXvw3ZIaUHQ0xJK8xvzr8px5FBKiplYhX6XBof+ qiy/1/Vf1Q+jpeXAHHQGqhg8R0ukXej0djSyYltyny1+NMSE8H3ZXof7NymZYkGGACP4 aMd9vvvhk7DQ1TlajdmQ6th759TIhN7cmQdc4= Received: by 10.50.161.135 with SMTP id xs7mr20716844igb.15.1326907864296; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:31:04 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.231.207.7 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jan 2012 09:30:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <4F15C44F.1030208@freebsd.org> <03da01ccd603$94aca490$be05edb0$@fisglobal.com> From: Chris Rees Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:30:33 +0000 Message-ID: To: Igor Mozolevsky Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, Mark Felder , Devin Teske Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and lifecycle X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 17:31:05 -0000 On 18 Jan 2012 17:12, "Igor Mozolevsky" wrote: > On 18 January 2012 17:06, Devin Teske wrote: > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd- > >> hackers@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of Julian Elischer > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:56 AM > >> To: Mark Felder > >> Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org > >> Subject: Re: FreeBSD has serious problems with focus, longevity, and l= ifecycle > >> > > [snip] > > > >> Where I used to work (Devin Teske is now there) =A0we used to use the = 'stable' > >> branch and rolll our own releases. > >> the criticality of those systems was hard to over-emphasize. In 2005 w= e worked > >> out we processed 1.5 trillion dollars of transactions on those systems= . > >> > > > > Got new stats. In 2011 we ran $1.61T USD through FreeBSD. > > > > Separately, we ran another $0.05T USD through Linux in the same year. > > > > Kinda says something about, doesn't it? > > Sorry to burst your bubble but this is utterly meaningless statistic. > You show nothing but correlation and in no way a causation. Back in > the days when the UK banks ran ATMs, &c on Windows NT (I have no idea > what they are running now) they went through a lot more "value" than > that---means absolutely nothing... > Well.... I've not seen any BSOD'd cashpoints around for a while, so I'd like to suggest they may have switched. Chris