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Date:      Tue, 13 Jan 2004 07:45:40 -0600
From:      Eric Anderson <anderson@centtech.com>
To:        Tig <tigger@onemoremonkey.com>
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Status reports - why not regularly?
Message-ID:  <4003F684.6090907@centtech.com>
In-Reply-To: <20040114003443.260c6738@piglet.goo>
References:  <20040113093903.GA84055@mimoza.pantel.net> <1073998390.18384.19.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> <20040114001137.5ce8983b@piglet.goo> <1074000332.18384.43.camel@kaiser.sig11.org> <20040114003443.260c6738@piglet.goo>

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Tig wrote:

>On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:25:33 +0100
>Matteo Riondato <rionda@gufi.org> wrote:
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><snip>
>  
>
>>I'm sorry but I cannot understand your point (this can be my poor
>>english fault..). I'm talking about writing a Report, not about Vinum
>>or in general software development. If neither of us two can
>>understand what each commit means, we cannot write a report about the
>>status of the project and we have to ask a developer to explain what
>>he did. After that we could write our report.
>>Regards
>>-- 
>>Rionda aka Matteo Riondato
>>G.U.F.I Staff Member (http://www.gufi.org)
>>BSD-FAQ-it Main Developer (http://www.gufi.org/~rionda)
>>GPG key at: http://www.riondabsd.net/riondagpg.asc
>>Sent from: kaiser.sig11.org running FreeBSD-5.2-CURRENT
>>
>>    
>>
>
>My point was you do not need to understand 'everything' to write a
>report. You just need to record what is going on, with enough
>information for people to see who is doing what and where.
>  
>

It would be much more efficient if even *some* of the developers that 
are working on "new-and-cool" features would at least mention it on the 
-CURRENT list, or even send an email to the person (people?) working on 
the report.  I know it's too much to ask o have every committer doing 
this - I would never expect that, but possibly there are a few core 
people that could occasionaly shoot an email out with some highlights.. 
The NDIS thing is a great example.. I broke my kernel build when it was 
first going in, and I didn't even have a clue it was being worked on.. 
Had it not broken a few builds around the -current waterhole, I think it 
may have gone somewhat unnoticed (which would be too bad since it is a 
nice addition). 

Anyhow, it's a great idea, and I think the "just do it" term applies 
here - start with what can be figured out, and then hunt committers and 
start questioning them ("hey, what's this new thing you've been 
committing a lot of lately?")..

Josef already agreed to do the markup (the most tedious part of the 
work) - so now it's just information gathering..

Eric


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