From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon May 7 15:13:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-hubs@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 406CD37B424; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:13:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f47MDL512813; Mon, 7 May 2001 15:13:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 7 May 2001 15:13:21 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Will Andrews Cc: Jordan Hubbard , asami@FreeBSD.ORG, hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: We seriously need a cleanup on ftp-master Message-ID: <20010507151321.A12712@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010507125604P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010507163119.H3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010507144618.A12252@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010507164650.J3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> <20010507150006.C12252@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010507170242.K3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010507170242.K3246@casimir.physics.purdue.edu>; from will@physics.purdue.edu on Mon, May 07, 2001 at 05:02:42PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 07, 2001 at 05:02:42PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > > Er, no one will mirror them from FreeBSD-archive. So where will they get > > them from? ftp-master.freebsd.org is not for user consumption. > > ftp.freebsd.org? That's the default site too. :) Perhaps I am out of touch... isn't ftp.freebsd.org going to be a rotating CNAME to ftp*.freebsd.org (verified full mirrors of /pub/FreeBSD)? Thus how is the common person going to get pub/FreeBSD-Archive? I assume there will be a small number of sites that will mirror every FreeBSD bit offered, but from the feedback of late, I don't think most main-line mirrors will. > > If it is truly just a disk space issue, we should investigate if we can > > get subsidized disks for well-connected mirrors. > > Heck, 50GB is a typical personal MP3 collection. > > > > BW is really the issue, what is expensive, and what we lack. > > Yup, but space is also an issue and should not be ignored. Yes, to a point. > Sites that > mirror FreeBSD are likely to mirror other software archives. There's no > reason to force the mirror operator to decide between RedHat and > FreeBSD, for example. As I said, maybe we need to consider subsidizing disk space if that is the only reason someone would not mirror us [and has *FAT* pipes]. $$ disk <<< $$ BW. > Reducing the overall size of the archive would also reduce the time to > update a mirror, as well as the bandwidth needed for such activity. When the content changes. If the content is fairly static (as is the case with proven snapshots and packages for older releases), then his is just a start up cost. I don't think we are bringing on 10 new mirrors / day. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message