From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jun 16 18:20:30 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8E8106564A for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:20:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@vereshagin.org) Received: from mx1.skyriver.ru (ns1.skyriver.ru [89.108.118.221]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC68D8FC12 for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:20:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (tor-exit-router45-readme.formlessnetworking.net [199.48.147.45]) by mx1.skyriver.ru (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3D8F05D8D for ; Thu, 16 Jun 2011 21:56:43 +0400 (MSD) Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 22:20:11 +0400 From: Peter Vereshagin To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20110616182011.GO5630@external.screwed.box> References: <4DF9174F.50708@danskdatacenter.dk> <4DFA03A3.8090500@infracaninophile.co.uk> <20110616152941.GL5630@external.screwed.box> <201106161154.06300.rsimmons0@gmail.com> <20110616162032.GN5630@external.screwed.box> <3d43539af0e60964a0406b8df304f16c.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3d43539af0e60964a0406b8df304f16c.squirrel@www.magehandbook.com> Organization: ' X-Face: 8T>{1owI$Byj]]a; ^G]kRf*dkq>E-3':F>4ODP[#X4s"dr?^b&2G@'3lukno]A1wvJ_L(~u 6>I2ra/<,j1%@C[LN=>p#_}RIV+#:KTszp-X$bQOj,K Subject: Re: free sco unix X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2011 18:20:30 -0000 You can't take no for an answer, freebsd-questions! 2011/06/16 13:36:32 -0400 Daniel Staal => To freebsd-questions@freebsd.org : DS> > RS> Copyright pertains to the source code. Trademark pertains to the use DS> > of DS> > RS> signs, symbols, names, logos, etc. DS> > DS> > Source code itself can have 'signs, symbols, names, logos, etc.' and DS> > consist in terms of its usability of them, doesn't it just use to? DS> > 'signs, symbols, names, logos, etc.' same way can have their source code DS> > and consist in terms of their usability of it, doesn't they just use to? DS> DS> Trademark is for 'this is made by me. I put my name on it.' Copyright is DS> for the content of a book/speech/whatever. But both are just words/phrases, right? How one can be sure the trademark is allowed to copy? It is a thing to be created. How one can be sure the copyrighted work itself is not a trademark? It can be that strange word the one suggested to rebrand Linux in this thread. Of course it doesn't sound to be a trademark yet so right now I can restrict its copyright. But years later it may happen to be a recognized brand and to be a trademark, right? ;-) There should be a threshold of "up to N bytes/characters it is a trademark, but more than it it is a work to be copyrighted', right? DS> 'Trademark' is a _maker's mark._ The point is not encouraging the DS> creation of works (like copyright): The point is so that a maker/seller so 'Trademark' is ought to be nothing creative? But companies use to spend a lots to invent them... DS> can build a reputation with their customers. DS> DS> They are very different in terms, uses, and requirements. In theory it is DS> possible to hold both a trademark and a copyright on the same thing, but DS> it is hard. (You will likely fail applicability tests for one or the DS> other.) It is of course possible to put a trademark on something you've DS> copyrighted, so people know who created it. DS> DS> Daniel T. Staal DS> DS> --------------------------------------------------------------- DS> This email copyright the author. Unless otherwise noted, you DS> are expressly allowed to retransmit, quote, or otherwise use DS> the contents for non-commercial purposes. This copyright will DS> expire 5 years after the author's death, or in 30 years, DS> whichever is longer, unless such a period is in excess of DS> local copyright law. DS> --------------------------------------------------------------- DS> DS> _______________________________________________ DS> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list DS> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions DS> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" 73! Peter pgp: A0E26627 (4A42 6841 2871 5EA7 52AB 12F8 0CE1 4AAC A0E2 6627) -- http://vereshagin.org