From owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 19 13:42:08 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: ports@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2F142E73; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:42:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alogt.com (alogt.com [69.36.191.58]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F149611BD; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:42:07 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=alogt.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type:Mime-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date; bh=1u7eNyDRQ5IlsJ5hgqvdv6GkgGq9vAZqIgKnmAfyMZM=; b=GKb7eRbGundexsiVoQvq+MNurwrcJ8ULQqOg53D/Jk6MdjVU60WHKoxqRKxEmbylXvozyqA/9r195i3FqsBegXL2P6198rthhg/qKiw25x3Zucf5ka1eEqlfROZnFNa26IZeCGU7qD6tcGej2aYHwsBGbYk3qA3+221O+XBJfDU=; Received: from [120.174.176.138] (port=54033 helo=X220.alogt.com) by sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net with esmtpsa (SSLv3:DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Vtdra-003N8m-Oy; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 06:42:07 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 21:41:50 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: marino@freebsd.org Subject: Re: If ports@ list continues to be used as substitute for GNATS, I'm unsubscribing Message-ID: <20131219214150.4dd55b09@X220.alogt.com> In-Reply-To: <52B2EECA.10908@marino.st> References: <52B0D149.5020308@marino.st> <20131219135421.63d7cd20@X220.alogt.com> <52B2EECA.10908@marino.st> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - alogt.com X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: sl-508-2.slc.westdc.net: authenticated_id: erichsfreebsdlist@alogt.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Cc: David Demelier , "ports@FreeBSD.org" , freebsd.contact@marino.st X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 13:42:08 -0000 Hi, On Thu, 19 Dec 2013 14:04:10 +0100 John Marino wrote: > On 12/19/2013 06:54, Erich Dollansky wrote: > > you got the point. We have to assume that a port which is not marked > > broken has to work. > > I build the entire port tree several times a month. I can tell you > from experience that this assumption is not valid. so, you want to say, that all the little problems which are solved mainly by people who are not the maintainer should become PRs? > > > So, the fault is on our side. Why should we spam > > GNATS with our problem? > > GNATS for confirmed problems, the list for anything else. > > Where is this cited? > PRs are not for confirmed problems. They are for any problem. > > However, this kind of "confirmation" post is not the type of post I > was complaining about. Unless your "confirmation" is no more than an > except of a log, then it is. > > To iterate my opinion, if a breakage is a symptom of a systematic > issue, or the port in question breaks like 6000 dependent ports, the > ports@ is appropriate. If it's a single broken port, then a PR is > appropriate. Alternatively, email the maintainer only. The majority > of us on this list do not care about individual broken ports and > getting a sent a log is noise at best. The sender of an e-mail does not need the majority but a single individual with the proper hint. Erich