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charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2020 08:57:52 -0000 On 19 Feb 2020, at 11:52, Ottavio Caruso via freebsd-questions = wrote: >=20 > On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 00:49, Yuri Pankov wrote: >>=20 >> On 18 Feb 2020, at 20:39, Tomasz CEDRO wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 3:51 PM Ed Maste wrote: >>>>=20 >>>> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 05:37, Tomasz CEDRO = wrote: >>>>>=20 >>>>> Maybe its a time to give OpenBSD a try.. >>>>=20 >>>> I really don't understand this comment, either. Certainly give = OpenBSD >>>> a try and if it fits your needs better that's great. >>>>=20 >>>> As far as I'm aware OpenBSD issues a release every six months and >>>> supports the most recent two releases, so it seems odd to me to >>>> complain about FreeBSD's ~1 year minor release support lifetime and = 5 >>>> year stable branch support lifetime in that context. >>>=20 >>> Its more like "lets try if what I need works better over there". Not >>> really the release timeline. >>>=20 >>> The release timeline problem is more related with pushing untested >>> features (and possible avalanche of solutions that introduce yet >>> another complications that we observe right now). >>>=20 >>> "The BSD Way", for me, was always about "it works solid or its not >>> there". Like macOS / iOS. >>>=20 >>> Unlike "The Linux Way" where things changes upside down from release >>> to release and each one of them has its own universe of variants. = Like >>> Android. >>>=20 >>> I am not sure if it is that important if there is a release in 6 = month >>> or 2 years. Not a problem at all. If in two years I get a 5 new >>> features that work rock solid then it seems a better choice than >>> getting new features every six months and have more problems on a >>> production because of that. >>>=20 >>> If I need to experiment there is a CURRENT branch. For well tested >>> features I have STABLE. For rock solid "I bet my money on that" I = have >>> a RELEASE. Right? >>>=20 >>> I did miss the 12.0 EoL kind of fix for DRM, sorry, it seems >>> reasonable. I am just worried that 12.2-RELEASE will have the same >>> problems, if not more new problems. >>=20 >> It is something you can help with, run 12.2-STABLE on some spare = equipment and report problems that affect *your* environment. >=20 > To a beginner and uninitiated like me, the way FreeBSD labels > "stable", "release", "releng" and "current" is, at the very least, > confusing. Thankfully, it is documented: = https://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/current-stable.= html = .=