From owner-freebsd-current Thu Feb 21 6:52:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mail6.speakeasy.net (mail6.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54C2737B402 for ; Thu, 21 Feb 2002 06:52:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14900 invoked from network); 21 Feb 2002 14:52:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([65.90.117.117]) (envelope-sender ) by mail6.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 21 Feb 2002 14:52:42 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20020221014909.A13952@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 09:52:44 -0500 (EST) From: John Baldwin To: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: Patch to improve mutex collision performance Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 21-Feb-02 David O'Brien wrote: >>> I'm fairly sure JHB does not have a patch to address this but, please, >>> be my guest and check P4. >> >> Actually he does. Maybe you should have checked p4 first yourself. > > Users of Perforce are starting to force the rest of us to learn and use > it. That is totally not acceptable for the general FreeBSD population. > Those that chose to use it because they feel the tool is useful for > THEMSELVES are of course free to use it. HOWEVER, Perforce is NOT the CM > system of the FreeBSD project. Thus users of Perforce are expected to > share their bits via posting patches, not forcing everyone to pull them > out of the Perforce depot. They are shared now just as often as before. Actually, more so. Remember the days of my one big sys.patch where I'd have to spend a night trying to commit the bits piecemeal? Contrast that with the way the MI pcpu stuff went in, or the first round of changes to add td_ucred. I actually have cron jobs that can generate updated diffs of the important p4 trees every 15 min or so but don't have most of them on for fear of hurting freefall with the extra load. You are asking for people to do more than they have done before and blaming their not doing it on the tools they are using. -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message