From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 5 14:26:23 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6231065692 for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 14:26:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vertexSymphony@zoho.com) Received: from sender1.zohomail.com (sender1.zohomail.com [72.5.230.95]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB6CA8FC1D for ; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 14:26:23 +0000 (UTC) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=zapps768; d=zoho.com; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; b=jvVrFGzXxiIry1WhFXwYxSQqljXMBoDkivdiMkjHIuMt8zx37hOHeup7wJj4R4h65TZx4tDwWV2E u1MfI8+wT81SKr3M9W/b4occIKVk1gn77BJAJsJKjOhkcgB90ML/ Received: from [192.168.0.100] (213-56-16-190.fibertel.com.ar [190.16.56.213]) by mx.zohomail.com with SMTPS id 1325773582966135.10504596842304; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 06:26:22 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4F05B302.2010308@zoho.com> Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 11:26:10 -0300 From: Alex Kuster User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD i386; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111230 Thunderbird/9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20120104223158.911B11065678@hub.freebsd.org> <20120104184910.0d604240@kan.dyndns.org> <4F04E626.5040406@phoronix.com> In-Reply-To: <4F04E626.5040406@phoronix.com> X-Enigmail-Version: undefined Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enig47BAA14E1A027AA130B37E10" X-Zoho-Virus-Status: 1 X-ZohoMailClient: External Subject: Re: Benchmark (Phoronix): FreeBSD 9.0-RC2 vs. Oracle Linux 6.1 Server X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jan 2012 14:26:24 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enig47BAA14E1A027AA130B37E10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 01/04/2012 20:52, Matthew Tippett wrote: > > As a service to the community or vendor that publishes the tuning > guide, Michael is more than willing to redo a tuned vs untuned > comparison. To date, the communities have never taken us up on that > offer. In part, this affects Phoronix.com 's > perception in the public, but that is more of a result of a one sided > discussion by a party external to a particular community (with a > healthy touch of journalisticly pumped compare & contrast). For the > FreeBSD community, who else outside of the FreeBSD community actually > runs public comparisons of FreeBSD against anything? If you just want to benchmark defaults, please, use proper defaults and don't do a *custom* ZFS setup (which was IMHO a pretty big and gross mistake). I would be interested in a benchmark that does significant tests with same hardware and REAL default setup. It would be awesome if those benchmarks were re-done that way, so we can compare an out-of-the-box experience even if that's not the last word on how a system will perform (as others said, no one uses a default setup for their servers) And, if anyone else suggests a tuned-system benchmark ... I'm ok with that too as long it's done properly and with guidance of a person of the community that can give proper advice. I'm a regular reader of Phoronix because it's basically easier than being subscribed to a couple of mailing lists, blogs and such just to get latest information on developments. And the site is fairly popular, so you hold a pretty big responsibility in there. I got really disappointed on how a bad benchmark could impact on the reputation of FreeBSD. Things that are not true that people will be repeating (not-so-long-ago I was a moderator on a Linux forum and I saw that misinformation in action, it's terrible !) Sorry if the words sound strong ... but I'm glad that these benchmarks can be re-done. 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