From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon Oct 21 15:44:47 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECFC015A1CB for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:44:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) Received: from admin.sibptus.ru (admin.sibptus.ru [IPv6:2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46xgtl1qsPz4PSt for ; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:44:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@sibptus.ru) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sibptus.ru; s=20181118; h=In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:To:From:Date; bh=/bj5Ktr8gYqDuzEfjfk5wI4pJojpPvoklzOn9RXE8bs=; b=KwZmPRlPIrBGy9sIIFXos8pUry hZquFJYNzal7KfPhPFClLG+tJPk5GOVSEnF2tKxrL9bR84wA6dcIbnOhVqfw0FcgzIAZunKc5VuXl ACDfKfxoysrAitgb4XfzK2P3kekGyHvVH5bP6/VnK6CwwvtKFWPU+rmovIUVCtxUtjew=; Received: from vas by admin.sibptus.ru with local (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1iMZrR-000L6c-HY for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:44:45 +0700 Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 22:44:45 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: BE and loader integration Message-ID: <20191021154445.GA77867@admin.sibptus.ru> References: <20191021083145.GA40656@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191021093319.GA42604@admin.sibptus.ru> <20191021102002.GA45885@admin.sibptus.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-PGP-Key: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.2 (2019-09-21) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 46xgtl1qsPz4PSt X-Spamd-Bar: -------- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=sibptus.ru header.s=20181118 header.b=KwZmPRlP; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=sibptus.ru; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of vas@sibptus.ru designates 2001:19f0:5001:21dc::10 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=vas@sibptus.ru X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-8.34 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[sibptus.ru:s=20181118]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+mx:c]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; IP_SCORE(-3.24)[ip: (-9.83), ipnet: 2001:19f0:5000::/38(-4.92), asn: 20473(-1.41), country: US(-0.05)]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[sibptus.ru:+]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[sibptus.ru,none]; SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20473, ipnet:2001:19f0:5000::/38, country:US]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 21 Oct 2019 15:44:48 -0000 --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Trond Endrest=F8l wrote: >=20 > > BTW the boot menu BE selection does not work properly anyway. I've foun= d some > > combinations of BEs and loader options which lead to an unbootable > > system: http://admin.sibptus.ru/~vas/bad_be.png > > Maybe it's sysutils/beadm's fault incorrectly creating BEs, whatever. >=20 > For some reason /dev failed to mount. Normally, the kernel=20 > automatically mounts / read-only and /dev read-write. The former is=20 > upgraded to read-write by the rc scripts during multiuser boot. I think I know the reason: it's several BEs trying to mount on top of one another, again. I've seen this already in the pre-zfsbe times. >=20 > It could be a bug in 11.3. It actually seems that the bug https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=3D208601 is not really fixed.=20 >=20 > The menus are somewhat improved in stable/12 and head. Here are some=20 > screenshots from a VM I just booted, it runs head from February(!): >=20 > https://ximalas.info/~trond/FreeBSD-head-BE-menu-2019-feb/ Yes, it looks more logical though the BE punches the Daemon in the nose. >=20 > That dark blue colour is my only complaint. It can be a real pain to=20 > read on certain terminals/video adapters. Do you use sysutils/beadm or sysutils/beadm-devel?=20 --=20 Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49@fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJdrdJtAAoJEA2k8lmbXsY0BhcH/RPeMdanafTlmjwOOY6zG/vG Lb7N3QTrnpikNTF3b+CmqpVsLk6awZHdF5J+zxEBRisQ1tNJiIIEbyRoDS2wFkad 89CSjrESGHU4XPphO1LFNmeFqqCR/wVubUWjXFIWTKG9xmQN0e5EfQIJqjs9u6CK VyWK25xWMq7dQrdVvgFs+rRVd1cdWBDJFB7sufjA/tqO6U+oMa/BgACtU/UU7V9P 4sK36toS7u+9uPDV7Z8FhgzC4A2QaluR3LFcnnd687co26Qk3J4lRCSfn5zYt0qw WbnwfWiUF1QWCE4/VyQtJNENVroQvHhXo2X3+SaU+RWF9PUIbh7yAImwwRtm8Z0= =4g92 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY--