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Date:      Mon, 1 Mar 2004 16:26:24 +0000
From:      Eivind Eklund <eivind@FreeBSD.org>
To:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: Gettext issues (was Re: cvs commit: ports CHANGES)
Message-ID:  <20040301162624.GE27008@FreeBSD.org>
In-Reply-To: <20040301154440.GC71640@dragon.nuxi.com>
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On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 07:44:40AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 03:50:06AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote:
> > > Talking of gettext: I've been toying with the idea of having WITHOUT_NLS
> > > settable in sysinstall, or defaulting NLS to off.  I believe most FreeBSD
> > > users will want the english version, even if translations are available.
> ...
> > This is worth exploring further.  I certainly do not expect to ever
> > need on my system the features gettext provides, although it's likely
> > that not all software can be easily weaned of the dependency.
> 
> I personally would love this knob -- shoot I'd almost say it should be
> the default.  GNU autoconf (at least for the toolchain) supports a
> --without-nls option.

The knob is there for a number of ports (but much fewer than I had
thought - I actually thought it was fairly universal):

devel/bison/Makefile
devel/gmake/Makefile
ftp/wget/Makefile
mail/mutt-devel/Makefile
mail/mutt/Makefile
net/darkstat/Makefile

This has actually seemed to be enough to stop most of the problems I
have with gettext (which shows you what kind of programs I run ;)

I think we should try to have it become universal - getting rid of
gettext is very useful for most of us.

Eivind.



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