From owner-freebsd-ports Mon Sep 18 14: 9:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 795BE37B423; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 14:09:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13b89o-000KfF-00; Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:08:56 +0200 Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 23:08:56 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Cc: ports@FreeBSD.org, Ade Lovett , stable@FreeBSD.org, seb@bluetail.com, ruslan@shevchenko.kiev.ua, olgeni@uli.it Subject: Re: erlang port -- a poster child (Re: I'll be rolling a 4.1.1 rele ase on September 25th) Message-ID: <20000918230856.A79272@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000918150610.C44991@FreeBSD.org> <200009182056.QAA36579@misha.privatelabs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200009182056.QAA36579@misha.privatelabs.com>; from mi@aldan.algebra.com on Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 04:56:01PM -0400 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon 2000-09-18 (16:56), mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > = Then SAY SO. In the PR. And if you get no response within a > = , followup on the PR, saying you got no response. > > Ok, this is something new... It may be new to you - I can't remember who drilled it into me. Think of PRs as a better memory than the typical committer's mailbox. It depends on the porter, but I just don't have time to act on things as I read them, and if I don't skim, I'll never keep up. I usually tag stuff from people I know well (Johann Visagie and his biotech stuff) and from the maintainers of the ports (my suggestion of putting MAINTAINER in he synopsis isn't taking off just yet) I know. Otherwise, I fire up tkgnats a few times a week, and start with any (update|upgrade).*MAINTAINER synopsis that I might have missed, and then unassigned "new port", and then "(update|upgrade)", and finally the other junk. Anything that isn't in that PR simply doesn't exist - I can't expend the effort to search the ports list for every PR I look at to find out what's up. > = Is it really that hard to understand that if it's not in the PR, it > = doesn't exist? > > Yes it is. Up until now, it was said, one has to talk committers. I > believe by contacting Ruslan and -ports I was doing just that. Having to > list all (some) of my steps in the PR is a new requirement -- I thought, > the PR should only have the technical information. Should this entire > conversation be documented there as well? I think it should be documented - it's "on-the-fly policy-making" (: I agree with the "if it's not in a PR, it doesn't exist" sentiment quite a bit - PRs contain information specific to a certain problem, and that allows me to look at your PR in tkgnats and discover it's being neglected, instead of just wondering what's up, and considering setting it to feedback to see what's up. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message