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Date:      Thu, 31 May 2001 17:42:50 +0930
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        Christoph Sold <so@server.i-clue.de>
Cc:        "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy@veldy.net>, "Valeriy E. Ushakov" <uwe@ptc.spbu.ru>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Should IPFilter be pulled from FreeBSD as well
Message-ID:  <20010531174250.D41422@wantadilla.lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <3B1519F4.E2671150@i-clue.de>; from so@server.i-clue.de on Wed, May 30, 2001 at 06:04:04PM %2B0200
References:  <005e01c0e913$0803a180$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010530183940.A3569@snark.ptc.spbu.ru> <00c301c0e917$003b74b0$3028680a@tgt.com> <3B1519F4.E2671150@i-clue.de>

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This message contained so many replies in different directions that
I'm not sure I have restored the correct sequence.

On Wednesday, 30 May 2001 at 18:04:04 +0200, Christoph Sold wrote:
> "Thomas T. Veldhouse" schrieb:
>> On  Wednesday, May 30, 2001 9:39 AM, "Valeriy E. Ushakov" <uwe@ptc.spbu.ru> wrote:
>>> On Wed, May 30, 2001 at 09:15:50 -0500, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is being pulled from OpenBSD for what seems like a pretty good
>>>> reason to me.
>>>
>>> Please, see this message from Darren to NetBSD's current-users.
>>>
>>>     http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2001/05/30/0004.html
>>>
>>>> I have cleared this up with core@netbsd.org and whilst they appear to
>>>> be happy that any problems have been resolved, another effort is
>>>> required so that core@netbsd.org can convey this to NetBSD users in a
>>>> meaningful way.  A similar message will also be sent to the FreeBSD
>>>> people as I've also been working with core@freebsd.org to resolve any
>>>> issues they had.
>>
>> Nothing in that article has convinced me that FreeBSD developers can change
>> the source at their will and distribute it -- according to the IPFilter
>> licence.  That right should be implicit in ALL FreeBSD system level source
>> code.
>
> I disagree. IPF is part of the ports. Since we accept other beasts
> (even without source code access like netscape 4.x) to lurk in
> there. Thus, having ipf in FreeBSD ports does in no way conflict
> with the license of the base system.

I'm not sure which system you're talking about here.  We call it
IPFILTER in FreeBSD, and it's in the kernel source tree.  If the worst
comes to the worst, we can move it to the ports, where you would be
correct, but I'm personally confident that we'll come to a
clarification which will leave it where it is.

Greg
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