From owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 13 12:28:31 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 232EFD19 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:28:31 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ignatios@cs.uni-bonn.de) Received: from postfix.iai.uni-bonn.de (postfix.iai.uni-bonn.de [131.220.8.4]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD0DC8FC15 for ; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:28:30 +0000 (UTC) X-IAI-Env-From: : [131.220.4.211] Received: from theory.cs.uni-bonn.de (theory.cs.uni-bonn.de [131.220.4.211]) by postfix.iai.uni-bonn.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5719E5C402; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:28:29 +0100 (MET) (envelope-from ignatios@cs.uni-bonn.de) (envelope-to VARIOUS) (6) (internal use: ta=0, tu=1, te=0, am=-, au=-) Received: from jaguar-alpha.cs.uni-bonn.de (jaguar-alpha.cs.uni-bonn.de [131.220.4.131]) by theory.cs.uni-bonn.de (Postfix) with SMTP id DF0C91BC3F; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:28:28 +0100 (CET) Received: (nullmailer pid 11407 invoked by uid 1501); Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:27:44 -0000 Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 13:27:44 +0100 From: Ignatios Souvatzis To: Lars Engels Subject: Re: Unified BSD? Message-ID: <20121113122744.GB2362@cs.uni-bonn.de> References: <20121113104511.GA2362@cs.uni-bonn.de> <20121113120427.GE96846@e-new.0x20.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20121113120427.GE96846@e-new.0x20.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: Joost van de Griek , misc@openbsd.org, users@dragonflybsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org, freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Non technical items related to the community List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 12:28:31 -0000 On Tue, Nov 13, 2012 at 01:04:27PM +0100, Lars Engels wrote: > MirBSD / MirOS is dead: > > http://www.freshbsd.org/search?project=mirbsd > > Last commit: 2011-08-29 23:00:00 I'm no Mir* co-worker, so take this with a grain of salt. But on general principles: a) I question the date itself - that's the last commit to whatever freshbsd.org watches, not necessarily the last thing the developers did. (In fact, I've heard from Thorsten at FrosCon that he does definitely not consider his project abandoned.) b) Besides - I question the notion of "unchanging" == "dead". In fact, as somebody who *uses* software, and who administeres computers for others who want to *use* the software, I consider changing software - e.g. the fortnightly changes of Firefox-Current's user interface - a nuisance. (That's why Mozilla has their "extended support release", currently 10.0.9.) People want to use software for some work, not spend half of their time rewriting configuration files or relearn key bidings or menu entry positions. (Now, nobody being there who looks at bug reports etc... thats something different. But you only see changes through this activity if there really *are* bugs.) -is