From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 6 13:25:54 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D028116A41C for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:25:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxicombina@gmail.com) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.193]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66BDF43D49 for ; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 13:25:54 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from maxicombina@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 69so1817283wri for ; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 06:25:52 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=pO0eTYUcceKxf9Lwo/kaFgP0CtZ+InfHlNZW/x+exdxrNFV1LpNg3cCsAKTcMqyHfE8mRizujweJXy1NP251cBMlNhB5KfKbfjF83NeP/bAiCxK05ZPjhe7Bum8O4+aLYPKSM2b0DsZa41bG8YdagqD9PnxIPAzD0DN0Io4ZcCs= Received: by 10.54.11.53 with SMTP id 53mr987970wrk; Mon, 06 Jun 2005 06:25:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.54.44.33 with HTTP; Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:25:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <285af08705060606255e26aa5b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2005 10:25:51 -0300 From: Maxi Combina To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200506061249.j56Cn1vd018910@lurza.secnetix.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <285af087050603095356601a3d@mail.gmail.com> <200506061249.j56Cn1vd018910@lurza.secnetix.de> Subject: Re: filesystems not properly unmounted [OT] X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Maxi Combina List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:25:54 -0000 > > I do not seed the need of insult other OS. May be you need to look more carefully. I am not talking _only_ about this thread. As I said, I dont wanna flame, just reflecting (or trying to :) ) > > Even worse if the other OS is open source (as linux). >=20 > Being open source doesn't mean that a piece of software is > any good. In fact, I've seen a lot of open source which > is just plain crap. (OK, now _this_ is an insult, but I > didn't mention any specific software in particular.) Totally agree. > Well, I don't see any. But everybody is free to have his > own opinion. Well, I insist: maybe you should look more carefully :) Just to mention the first thing that comes to my mind: several linux distros have achieved a difficult goal: ease of installation-use combined with a stable system. I have no trouble with a "diffucult / unix-like" OS, but a lot of people do. And this a _fact_.They dont have time to spend learning to use a "dificult" OS. And I think that if we want to tell more and more people (friends, family, goverment, companies, etc) to move to an open source OS, we must do an effort. I think that there are a lot of linux distros out there that are really easy to use, and even more "friendly" or "beatiful" than windows. I dont think that FreeBSD has achieved this. I dont think there is need. FreeBSD is more suitable for a server station, but not for the desktop. I use linux both as server and desktop with excelent results. I am using FreeBSD since a few weeks ago, also with excelents resutls. But I see it is not desktop oriented (I repeat, this seems ok for me. FreeBSD is better for a server station, not for a desktop). I dont think that there is an OS that is the best for all the purposes. Use windows if you want to play the latest games. Use *BSD if you want or need a really good unix. Use linux if ...... ( fill in the blanks ;) ) Please let me know if you dont agree, and why. Best regards, Maxi