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Date:      Thu, 23 Apr 1998 11:00:05 -0700
From:      Studded <Studded@san.rr.com>
To:        patl@phoenix.volant.org
Cc:        current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Why is xtend in the base system?
Message-ID:  <353F81A5.B8DF42B@san.rr.com>
References:  <ML-3.3.893344470.6561.patl@asimov>

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patl@phoenix.volant.org wrote:
> 
> I thought we'd settled this.  

	No, someone (perhaps you) posted an argument similar to the one you are
putting forward here in a previous post. That does not equal "settled"
in my book, as far as I'm concerned it's just another data point. 

> Xtend is in the base system because
> it uses kernel facilities that are still evolving at a rate that
> would make it prohibitively difficult to track from a port.  We
> should table the issue and re-visit it once the kernel has settled
> down.

	If there are people willing to keep the xten code up to date in the
base system why would these same people not be willing to do so if xten
was in a port?

[major snip]

> You mean back to the technical issues involved in keeping it working
> once it has been pulled from the base distribution?  And in producing
> a port that will build and work across all the various 2.x and -current
> kernels that will be in use between the time you yank it and the time
> the kernel settles down?  Are you volunteering to own the xten port?

	There are currently no differences in xten.c between -Stable and
-Current. The last change to -Current was October '97. The last change
before that was June '97. Things are very similar with xtend.c and other
files in the xtend directory (no differences, last changes were in
December '97). I think you're dramatically overstating the difficulty of
making this into a port. :)

> Isn't this a pretty minor issue to get all heated up over?

	Actually I'm not heated up. I'm not concerned about make world times, I
really don't care that much about this issue at all. I'm just tired of
people justifying the status quo based on arguments that don't hold
water. 

Doug
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