Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2001 09:10:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Sung Nae Cho <sucho2@quasar.phys.vt.edu> To: Nicolas Grieco <ng@t-online.fr> Cc: <freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: FreeBSD needs to awake and come out of SERVER only market! Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.33.0107250852360.20925-100000@quasar.phys.vt.edu> In-Reply-To: <20010725141257.D39794@t-online.fr>
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On Wed, 25 Jul 2001, Nicolas Grieco wrote: > > > Come on, desktop is the king and FreeBSD should focus itself evolving in > > > desktop market. If you gonna whine about stability, go back to FreeBSD > > > 2.x, 3.x. For me, FreeBSD 4.x, 5.x should be more desktop oriented, and > > > desktops need performance!!!!! > > Servers don't need performance ? > Desktops don't need stability ? > > What kind of world do you live in ? > You seems to forget that many FreeBSD'ers use it for professional servers and > not only as jukebox multimedia. > BTW i don't even understand why they should choose between Desktop and Server, i think > FreeBSD 4.x could do both perfectly. > > Regards, > > I don't know how far this have gone down the road and altered throughout the course. But, I've never said desktops don't need stability. It all started with some faction of FreeBSD users complaining about the default enable of the disk write cache for modern hard drives in FreeBSD 4.x series. My original post was literally responding to them, "Come on! This is 21st Century and hard disks are reliable and we need to take full advantage over those capable devices if FreeBSD's ever going to succeed in desktop market. FreeBSD is no longer for server use only!" Personally, I've been using UDMA capable disks (and, who doesn't these days?) with all the DMA capabilities fully turned on and never had to compromise performance with stability. If you are so worried about UDMA capable disks to not to work as it suppose to, why in the world are you even getting UDMA disk? Jee, lets get real here. Too many of the FreeBSD users are too overly conservative or out of date. Being overly conervative is not necessarily being wise, rather, it's being stubborn. I just thought that everyone responding to this post regarding "FreeBSD needs comeout of server market and meet the Desktop world" should know where this debate originated from before responding just reading some follow ups that have been twisted many times down the road. Anyways, this topic is getting flameful and dull. And I don't appreciate when people make everything so serious and start calling someone who's simply telling the truth a "Troll" or something similar in nature. A wise/educated person should not try to cover it's flaws, rather learn to improve from it. Please, I do not want to refuel the flame. Nor have I posted the original message for that matter. Yours sincerely, Sung N. Cho, Wednesday, July 25, 2001. Dept. of Physics, Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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