From owner-freebsd-current Wed Sep 5 18:42:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 239C837B401 for ; Wed, 5 Sep 2001 18:42:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mkc-65-31-219-45.kc.rr.com (HELO yahoo.com) (65.31.219.45) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 6 Sep 2001 01:42:40 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <3B96D48F.8030105@yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2001 20:42:39 -0500 From: Jim Bryant Reply-To: kc5vdj@yahoo.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010726 Netscape6/6.1 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kc5vdj@yahoo.com Cc: Dave Cornejo , Poul-Henning Kamp , current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: ACPI CHANGES AFFECTING MOST -CURRENT USERS References: <200109060010.f860A8M46067@white.dogwood.com> <3B96D06B.3030908@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jim Bryant wrote: > Dave Cornejo wrote: > >> you wrote: >> >>> And just for the record: PERL is right out (of space) for this >>> purpose... >>> >> >> as I assume emacs would be too? :-( > > > > Hey now! Them's fightin' words! :^) > > Emacs makes the sun shine, > Emacs makes the birds sing, > Emacs makes the grass grow green! > > chsh -s /usr/local/bin/emacs root > > So what if FreeBSD can run on a 4 meg machine once it's booted, if it > can't use eight megs while booting, and do your laundry for you at the > same time! > > Emacs r0x! OF course, emacs would be a little large and bloated, no matter how much I like it, or you like it, but, you do bring up a viable alternative to FORTH [which is unlikely to be scrapped in the bootloader], and so far, it may be the only viable alternative discussed so far, and that is LISP. LISP can be implemented in a tiny form, it is the OLDEST high-level language in computing, it has a LARGE base of programmers, and it is easy to learn. Full Common-LISP wouldn't be necessary for a bootloader, only a reasonable subset. EMACS may be large, some will say bloated, but it is a tribute to the sheer flexibility of the LISP language. I doubt if the bootloader will ever change from FORTH, but if it does, I suggest LISP as the preferred choice on a short-list of potential replacements. jim -- ET has one helluva sense of humor! He's always anal-probing right-wing schizos! -------------------------------------------- POWER TO THE PEOPLE! _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message