From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 19 17:25:07 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 77874645 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yh0-x235.google.com (mail-yh0-x235.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c01::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 27B02361 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by yhaf73 with SMTP id f73so830384yha.3 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:25:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=seibercom.net; s=google; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :organization:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=zTo0Z0ZQaANC/Zt6IMaDTUNcp4bquTH6IjfALbOp9ys=; b=Bu1hzNkwuxn/ik2y3/BLwJSrY2eZhX2oxRXuRLgfJmNo48Ys1ogzSRPKE/15Wv9mxy PJ895rPwR4wyYaohfA9jaXMyGCrJPtvs/ldk5NfFRTujislATlMOeNyW5hiZsbX1WaqL mv56ai9FsUosGHs9JnjY/dQsR+F85hehJDRUk= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:reply-to:organization:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=zTo0Z0ZQaANC/Zt6IMaDTUNcp4bquTH6IjfALbOp9ys=; b=nEF2X1aCS1a5eoH6jhaHe1cS+3dRXvnQFZhikSPZQDQjDCAcVibj3Eg+FjkfEInQdr gOMn9s7BtktmRUou8aYqGRK07CLRlDodgJ7mM6wDeoDOByxQqNw5AysOAqwWCUKVNvxH /U+GWPVEcvgoy44anLB/cvX0A0weVVt++VTLpRm3kK86JT7cdJAZU2Sd7Rgr6Vutezo+ 622OlffOnGiUd8iMN2vPdmfuggUUt5/byeeYmzLbfXPJj2reHDGsMOY8R4Nwj5styZ0k vswd4SADiJcZ1D5iC0MTrUFpSc4+523SMWaFKxBBEEogCyNIl5euaokXHaKq7oGU/LSK WeMw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQl2E7IF1VrOZGIdbBI8GeoVJ19JW5RaSNOJF/1DgeM+1Td6nvaVAFl1z49cVWjrGENp9VB4 X-Received: by 10.236.209.65 with SMTP id r41mr3735083yho.152.1424366706216; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:25:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio.seibercom.net (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com. [76.182.104.150]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o30sm19269859yha.37.2015.02.19.09.25.05 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 19 Feb 2015 09:25:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from scorpio (cpe-076-182-104-150.nc.res.rr.com [76.182.104.150]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3kp2qN4rXJz3Dlj5 for ; Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:25:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.98.6 at scorpio.seibercom.net Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 12:24:46 -0500 From: Jerry To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Subject: Re: What's in my hard drive? How can I get rid of it? Message-ID: <20150219122446.4ff6982f@scorpio> In-Reply-To: <54E61796.4060306@gmail.com> References: <54E39F83.70002@gmail.com> <20150218173047.GA53030@slackbox.erewhon.home> <20150218184227.GC26575@neutralgood.org> <20150219132221.b5d14e68.freebsd@edvax.de> <20150219081839.1a4c0359@scorpio> <54E61796.4060306@gmail.com> Reply-To: FreeBSD FreeBSD Organization: seibercom NET X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 17:25:07 -0000 On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:04:22 -0700, jd1008 stated: > What a pile of manure. > Any decent and intelligent lawyer could appeal such > cased and have the conviction thrown out of court - > this, assuming that our court systems and judges are > actually fully beholden to the constitution and the rule > of law, and due process. Just two cases in point: Los Angeles County Francisco "Franky" Carrillo was convicted of the 1991 murder of Donald Sarpy and sentenced to life in jail. His conviction was reversed by the Los Angeles County Superior Court on March 14, 2011, after he had served twenty years in prison. Geronimo Pratt, a Black Panther leader, was convicted in 1972 of the 1968 murder of a white school teacher and sentenced to life in jail. He was exonerated in 1997. There are literally 100's of cases that are sometimes corrected after 20+ years. Is 20+ years your idea of success? By the way, this is my number 1 argument against the death penalty. Correct me if I am wrong, but they have not discovered how to reanimate a corpse yet have they? It was reported, and I forgot what agency did the study, that not less than 2% and not more than 7% of all incarcerated men and women in the US are totally innocent of the crime they were convicted of.It went on to state that these convictions were obtained though a combination of official misconduct by the prosecution and sloppy or deliberately engineered investigations by the police. These cases from NY are interesting because I actually knew some of the cops involved in the Westchester case. New York New York County The Central Park Five were five Harlem teens convicted of the 1989 assault and rape of a jogger in New York's Central Park. They served their sentences but afterwards their convictions were set aside in 2002 when DNA evidence cleared them and another man confessed to the crime. Westchester County In 1998 Kian Daniel Khatibi was convicted of a double stabbing after detectives from the Village of Pleasantville falsely claimed that the victims had identified Kian as their attacker and then forwarded this false information to the Westchester County District Attorney. In 2008, Kian was released from prison as the truth unraveled and the conviction was overturned. Jeffrey Mark Deskovic was convicted of the 1989 of rape and murder of a high school classmate and sentenced to 15 years-life in jail. He was exonerated in 2006 when the DNA from the crime was matched to another person. -- Jerry