From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sun Dec 10 18:10:33 2017 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAD1E937A9 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 18:10:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x22a.google.com (mail-vk0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CF4737ABD4; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 18:10:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kob6558@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id o70so9589192vkc.9; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:10:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=Tu2zj2RihwRFhgsjWIVrYKVL/sdg4zOGC44xhLPd9Es=; b=a2xsGpuQNjPxWMIcwFg+y6GhT6Y/nmDBGl5zIN/q4gJlX3YmNF1HhTF+Qxmz29L3wF Qu7Dsoenl3hGBkxxph5J1idKBtdJ6z0H1Qvzp13ezJhCuR8Jr+vf3P6Uy8lZ4YOpWNZz QI62jDZ+U6qLgAydYlh3tNDB2bUDefCAQ6vGZnsyHo2Ex5X3vmxUIsCCVVsDJkDZxqQu uNvfLYeBQJ9Gwa0nAoCtkIy8ER0FqheMfGtaRj6k06SMtd/Q8bN0JMAy4g0M+ReYaHjI 5l9xdL9Mkq2GxS/z/BYlAM5nrlMfMYN3mlvWLWZqYRslq9cEE/FJ2JsxuR4cyRRGCoLc rZzQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Tu2zj2RihwRFhgsjWIVrYKVL/sdg4zOGC44xhLPd9Es=; b=JTw/LRHLh6UrpQe9hWU3oNZVSpA+3woU2eu4JZx/Eo6b/sqBatypdW89CPpMQaGGQv l9Gue/G7lORMg+5U/CgOOTIK0/cKrpfu/PXLAzhiMj2lTD4voZXOq8djXGMm0nraAM21 UEJdWnGjWzbtSgS6hmBUN+YHNF7oXN1KmRRYMvtA/LCpVaRbT09XFj8zLbQ/PxShwseA THMq+rHEX2yiEWs+R5uJQACPwFc4ddPaVXL6CK8QUmF/uiWntskzT+UBCnEW93QEw3El ytsCrLVj/fL6w2Cd0HPQey1FhO4Fsith1ziy+44gW/vmeLyS8rcE8pwWcfPaEZpRGhiz Pwiw== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mJgamMzEs30z7lzbGLSGXLQf+DVIaOCD1TsqaIEVEfyR9jzn4LN HxLM20qXyeT6LDlra2XnhG+nqvPy2TJ/ugsxsT29FF2m X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMbigQoUQ6zxO0kEx7xsBMhDP5Goo83TaKOXIUFtJ/DM0LK68FQCYoJlPP4ul9h6izZliodpcor+VI+peMBRBGU= X-Received: by 10.31.84.131 with SMTP id i125mr23147428vkb.128.1512929431477; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:10:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: kob6558@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.147.156 with HTTP; Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:10:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20171210171122.GA48536@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> References: <20171208180905.GA96560@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20171209012522.GA42506@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <20171210171122.GA48536@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> From: Kevin Oberman Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:10:30 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: RR5PreKpBzrnBPnnAQ9yfsyACpg Message-ID: Subject: Re: Procmail Vulnerabilities check To: Steve Kargl Cc: Matthew Seaman , FreeBSD Ports ML Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2017 18:10:33 -0000 On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 9:11 AM, Steve Kargl < sgk@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 01:21:13PM +0000, Matthew Seaman wrote: > > > > Hence the current sendmail in base is neither fish nor fowl: way > > overpowered for almost all installations, but with significant > > limitations for a machine providing a full-blown mail service. > > Personally I agree with his reasoning: unless the primary function of > > your FreeBSD machine is to be an MTA, you really don't need any more > > capability than to either deliver to a local mailbox, or forward all > > e-mails to a smart host. Certainly you don't need anything capable of > > receiving incoming e-mails. > > > > I disagree. FreeBSd used to pride itself on being a complete operating > system oout-of-the-box. Lately, a smaller number of developers are > moving FreeBSD to being a kernel with a bunch of add-on software. > > dma(1) does not support a .forward file and by extension vacation(1). > Without .forward, then those of use who use procmail(1) (subject of > this email thread) in .forward and by extension spamassisin are > hosed. > > Chapter 27 of the FreeBSD Handbook would need to be rewritten before > sendmail can be removed. It is assumed that sendmail is installed > with base. > > -- > Steve > Strongly agree! Support ofr some basics like .forward is really a requirement. It is used for too many "normal" mail operations including private dropmail or procmail setups as well as forwarding to a smartmail system. -- Kevin Oberman, Part time kid herder and retired Network Engineer E-mail: rkoberman@gmail.com PGP Fingerprint: D03FB98AFA78E3B78C1694B318AB39EF1B055683