From owner-freebsd-questions Sat Dec 28 06:12:12 1996 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) id GAA13022 for questions-outgoing; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from sdev.usn.blaze.net.au (sdev.usn.blaze.net.au [203.17.53.19]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id GAA13016 for ; Sat, 28 Dec 1996 06:12:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from davidn@localhost) by sdev.usn.blaze.net.au (8.8.4/8.6.9) id BAA01502; Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:11:53 +1100 (EST) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 29 Dec 1996 01:11:53 +1100 From: davidn@sdev.usn.blaze.net.au (David Nugent) To: harpo@javanet.com (John D. Szumowski) Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pine setup... References: <32C1A8E5.41C67EA6@javanet.com> <32C520B4.167EB0E7@javanet.com> X-Mailer: Mutt 0.54 Mime-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <32C520B4.167EB0E7@javanet.com>; from John D. Szumowski on Dec 28, 1996 08:29:24 -0500 Sender: owner-questions@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk John D. Szumowski writes: >David Nugent wrote: >>>> any help would be appreciated. (yes, i do have mail.javanet.com listed >>>> as the smtp server, and javanet.com as the user domain. what else?) >> >> This suggests you need a local mail reading config, in which >> case, Pine should work. What errors is Pine reporting? > > Ok...let me get this straight. Pine works *fine* for local email. That > however, doesn't help since I'm the only user of this machine. Fair enough. It sounded like your ISP had set up smtp delivery to your machine rather than to their own mail spool, and if that was the case, then local reading would work (of course :-)). > Anyways, > I'm waiting to hear from my isp's tech-support as to whether they run > imap or not. I don't know. I just want to be able to pull messages off > my shell account (@ javanet). > Pine, I have heard, doesn't support pop Yep, sure it does. Pine supports both POP2 and POP3. Just don't use it for your default folder since it quite won't work as you expect. Pine will allow it, but it keeps your primary "INBOX" open while it runs, so you'll never see any new mail in there due to deficiencies built into the braindead POP3 protocol. IMAP, unlike POP, is intended for interactive use, whereas POP3 is a (very) simple mail download protocol where the number of messages available MUST NOT be updated during a single session regardless of reality. You also lose the abilitity to U)ndelete messages, along with a slew of other features most Pine users enjoy. The idea is to add any pop3 folder as a secondary "incoming folder", and download any mail there immediately you open it to your local system, where you can work on it and enjoy all the facilities Pine has to offer. To set Pine up to read via pop3, edit your .pinerc and set or change the following: # If you're running sendmail locally, you won't need this. # This tells Pine to deliver mail your send to your ISP # rather than hand it off to your local /usr/sbin/sendmail smtp-server=your.isp.smtp.server.fqdn # Leave this blank, and point it to your local inbox # which will be /var/mail/yourname inbox-path= # Adds the POP3 connection as another folder incoming-folders="POP Mail" {your.isps.fqdn/pop3}INBOX > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ (note the format of this line in particular) # Add these features (select any others you might like too) feature-list=enable-incoming-folders, enable-aggregate-command-set [fdqn=fully qualified domain name - ie. your host's address] Now, run up Pine, and change folders with L to your ISP POP folder. Enter your name and password when requested (you'll have to enter this each time, or hack the Pine sources to enable the "save login and password to disk feature, which is enabled by default only for single-user OSs, like DOS/Win/OS2). If any mail is there, mark it all with ";A" and S)ave it to your primary INBOX. Bingo - you've just "downloaded" your mail. :-) Just make sure that you read and respond to mail directly from your own inbox rather than the POP folder - it'll save you a lot of headache. I hope this helps. Regards, David Nugent - Unique Computing Pty Ltd - Melbourne, Australia Voice +61-3-9791-9547 Data/BBS +61-3-9792-3507 3:632/348@fidonet davidn@freefall.org davidn@blaze.net.au http://www.blaze.net.au/~davidn/