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Date:      Sun, 9 Apr 2000 15:08:05 -0400
From:      Paul Chvostek <paul@it.ca>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: "FreeBSD" as trademark
Message-ID:  <20000409150805.C36746@flarn.it.ca>
In-Reply-To: <38EF0BC8.6228D07E@mail.ptd.net>; from Thomas M. Sommers on Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 06:36:57AM -0400
References:  <freebsd-questions.2.2.32.20000407012835.01333468@netmail.home.com> <20000407092202.A26DA7C88@yellow.rahul.net> <38EF0BC8.6228D07E@mail.ptd.net>

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Here's my favourite:

http://trademarks.uspto.gov/cgi-bin/ifetch4?ENG+ALL+3+970449+0+1+88216+F+26+50+1+linux


On Sat, Apr 08, 2000 at 06:36:57AM -0400, Thomas M. Sommers wrote:
> 
> Rahul Dhesi wrote:
> > 
> > "FreeBSD" is a composite term made up of two words: "Free" and "BSD".
> > The word "Free" is not trade-mark-able when used with its normal meaning
> > of "free of cost".  The word BSD *might* be trade-mark-able if the
> > University of California decided to make it so; but they didn't.  I
> > doubt that anybody else could claim trade mark rights over the word
> > "BSD", when used to refer to "BSD".  A valid trade mark gives the
> > claimant a monopoly over the trade mark, and I doubt that anybody except
> > the University of California could exercise such a monopoly over 'BSD'.
> > 
> > The composite term "FreeBSD" would be a very, very weak trade mark, if
> > it could be one at all.  It would probably be no stronger a trade mark
> > than any of these other composite words:
> > 
> >    FreeMarket
> >    FreeLunch
> >    FreeSoftware
> >    FreeSample
> > 
> > Now as to whether a trade mark is *claimed* over 'FreeBSD', that's a
> > different question.  I believe there is such a claim.  But a claim alone
> > does not make a trade mark legally valid.
> > 
> 
> Both BSD and FreeBSD are registered trademarks:
> 
> BSD: 
> 
> http://trademarks.uspto.gov/cgi-bin/ifetch4?ENG+ALL+3+966392+0+0+498344+F+6+10+1+MS%2fbsd
> 
> FreeBSD:
> 
> http://trademarks.uspto.gov/cgi-bin/ifetch4?ENG+ALL+3+966392+0+0+344462+F+5+10+1+MS%2fbsd
> 
> Amusingly enough, there is also a completely different BSD trademark:
> 
> http://trademarks.uspto.gov/cgi-bin/ifetch4?ENG+ALL+3+966392+0+0+739172+F+7+10+1+MS%2fbsd
> 
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