From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Oct 29 08:07:19 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CDB16A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:07:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de [129.217.129.133]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C85E43FBD for ; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 08:07:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Received: from lofi.dyndns.org (pc2-105.intern.meitner [10.3.12.105]) by meitner.wh.uni-dortmund.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AFC167622; Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:07:15 +0100 (CET) Received: from gmx.net (lofi@kiste.my.domain [192.168.8.4]) (authenticated bits=0) by lofi.dyndns.org (8.12.9p1/8.12.9) with ESMTP id h9TG7EUu051270 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:07:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from michaelnottebrock@gmx.net) Message-ID: <3F9FE5AD.2090901@gmx.net> Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 17:07:09 +0100 From: Michael Nottebrock User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20030624 Netscape/7.1 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en, de-de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-current@freebsd.org References: <20031028063802.GC10818@canolog.ninthwonder.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.76.7.0 X-Enigmail-Supports: pgp-inline, pgp-mime Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="------------enigDEF065F3B6991B05278F9D92" X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new Subject: Re: Forward: HEADS UP! Default value of ip6_v6only changed X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2003 16:07:19 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156) --------------enigDEF065F3B6991B05278F9D92 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Christian Weisgerber wrote: > If we ship with a default of v6only off, then people will > not fix software to open two sockets. This in turn means that > turning v6only on will break this software. I find the notion of making people "fix" their software to not rely on RFC-defined behaviour problematic. I'm actually glad to see NetBSD reversed their unfortunate decision regarding the default (and OpenBSD's stunt of not even providing a knob is very evil indeed). > I understand that itojun would like to see this aspect of RFC2553 > amended. I don't know what the prospects of this happening are on > the IETF level. Not too bad, IMHO. The IETF really is the place for this decision to be made and the knob should reflect current standards. Flipping the default when a revised RFC is published would be the right thing to do. -- ,_, | Michael Nottebrock | lofi@freebsd.org (/^ ^\) | FreeBSD - The Power to Serve | http://www.freebsd.org \u/ | K Desktop Environment on FreeBSD | http://freebsd.kde.org --------------enigDEF065F3B6991B05278F9D92 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3-nr1 (Windows 2000) Comment: Using GnuPG with Netscape - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/n+WxXhc68WspdLARAvZZAJ4/yVJtKr8K/KBR5D4oKORFKB1MewCfbIen Asz4MibmjRhCg1+O1J04/ZQ= =98iB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------enigDEF065F3B6991B05278F9D92--