From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Feb 2 08:01:01 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB5516A420 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:01:01 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au [211.29.132.199]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C35343D45 for ; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 08:01:00 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from peterjeremy@optushome.com.au) Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (c220-239-19-236.belrs4.nsw.optusnet.com.au [220.239.19.236]) by mail18.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.12.11/8.12.11) with ESMTP id k1280wDx025961 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA bits=168 verify=NO); Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:00:59 +1100 Received: from turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (localhost.vk2pj.dyndns.org [127.0.0.1]) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k1280wQ1003485; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:00:58 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k1280wlb003484; Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:00:58 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from peter) Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 19:00:58 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy To: "Daniel O'Connor" Message-ID: <20060202080058.GC921@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> References: <200601301652.16237.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <200602020952.39010.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> <20060202071137.GB921@turion.vk2pj.dyndns.org> <200602021812.59001.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="96YOpH+ONegL0A3E" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200602021812.59001.doconnor@gsoft.com.au> X-PGP-Key: http://members.optusnet.com.au/peterjeremy/pubkey.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.11 Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: KDE 3.5.0 seems much chubbier than 3.4.2 X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 08:01:02 -0000 --96YOpH+ONegL0A3E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 2006-Feb-02 18:12:56 +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >On Thursday 02 February 2006 17:41, Peter Jeremy wrote: >> On Thu, 2006-Feb-02 09:52:22 +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: >> >Also, xrestop shows X using 120Mb of pixmaps. >> >X's size is 315M, and I have a 64Mb video card. >> > >> >64 + 120 =3D 184 >> >315 - 184 =3D 131 >> > >> >ie 131Mb of space that X is using but no obvious reason.. >> >> There's a lot more to X than the video memory and pixmaps. > >Sure, but 131Mb is a lot of "other". Yes, I suspect that some of that is freed memory that hasn't been released. >> In my case (this is X.org 6.9.0 on 6-stable/amd64 but the principle is >> the same), I have 32MB video RAM, 28MB pixmaps and ps report that X >> is using 78MB - a difference of 18M. >> >> If I look at the process memory map (see procfs(5)), the breakdown is: >> 38MB vnode backed (mostly shared libraries) >> 32MB device (video memory) >> 6.75MB swap + default (malloc'd space, stack etc) >> >> This suggests that X is storing a lot of pixmaps in video RAM (for >> efficiency). > >[inchoate 18:12] ~ >ps -axw| grep bin/X > 826 ?? S 66:52.15 /usr/X11R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp :0 -auth /var/run= /xauth/A:0-lKynIa (Xorg) >[inchoate 18:12] ~ >sudo cat /proc/826/map >cat: /proc/826/map: File too large > >Broken in -current? Pilot error. /proc/.../map is a text file but has "unusual" semantics to ensure atomicity - you have to issue a read with a big enough block size that the entire map can be fetched in a single read. The following is off a -current sysem (but pre-jemalloc running X.org 6.8.2). The X server is 81204KB virtual, 62228KB resident. server# ps -axlww|grep n/X 0 712 709 1 96 0 81204 62228 select Ss ?? 6:21.92 /usr/X1= 1R6/bin/X -nolisten tcp -once :2 -auth /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xdm/authdir/authf= iles/A:2-g79Knf (Xorg) server# dd if=3D/proc/712/map bs=3D64k 0x8048000 0x81c2000 319 0 0xc3a70438 r-x 4 2 0x0 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6/bi= n/Xorg 0x81c2000 0x81d1000 15 0 0xc3a4f9d8 rw- 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC vnode /usr/X11R6= /bin/Xorg 0x81d1000 0x81e3000 17 0 0xc402d870 rw- 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC default - 0x81e3000 0x89b2000 1999 0 0xc5799bb8 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC default - 0x89b2000 0x8b4c000 409 0 0xc3a70780 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC default - 0x8b4c000 0x8b7c000 48 0 0xc4889078 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC default - 0x8b7c000 0x8c5d000 225 0 0xc567b8e8 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC default - 0x8c5d000 0x8c67000 10 0 0xc560ca50 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NC default - 0x8c67000 0x8fe8000 897 0 0xc3eaa5a0 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC default - 0x8fe8000 0x9322000 826 0 0xc3b367f8 rwx 1 0 0x2180 NCOW NNC default - 0x281c2000 0x281e8000 27 0 0xc103a528 r-x 125 54 0x4 COW NC vnode /libexec/= ld-elf.so.1 0x281e8000 0x281ea000 2 0 0xc3a4fb40 rw- 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /libexec/l= d-elf.so.1 0x281ea000 0x281ef000 5 0 0xc55469d8 rw- 1 0 0x2180 COW NC default - 0x281ef000 0x28200000 9 0 0xc577d000 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NC swap - 0x28200000 0x2820f000 14 0 0xc1029780 r-x 38 24 0x0 COW NC vnode /lib/libz.= so.3 0x2820f000 0x28210000 1 0 0xc3a4fca8 r-x 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /lib/libz.= so.3 0x28210000 0x28211000 1 0 0xc3a4fbb8 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /lib/libz.= so.3 0x28211000 0x28226000 11 0 0xc1028708 r-x 47 26 0x0 COW NC vnode /lib/libm.= so.4 0x28226000 0x28227000 1 0 0xc3a4fd20 r-x 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /lib/libm.= so.4 0x28227000 0x2822a000 2 0 0xc3a4fd98 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /lib/libm.= so.4 0x2822a000 0x2822b000 0 0 0xc3a4f3c0 r-x 11 6 0x0 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6/l= ib/libXau.so.0 0x2822b000 0x2822c000 1 0 0xc3a70a50 r-x 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6= /lib/libXau.so.0 0x2822c000 0x2822d000 1 0 0xc3a70168 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6= /lib/libXau.so.0 0x2822d000 0x2822f000 2 0 0xc3a2e8e8 r-x 11 6 0x0 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6/l= ib/libXdmcp.so.0 0x2822f000 0x28230000 1 0 0xc3a70078 r-x 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6= /lib/libXdmcp.so.0 0x28230000 0x28232000 2 0 0xc3a70708 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6= /lib/libXdmcp.so.0 0x28232000 0x28301000 164 0 0xc3a4fe88 r-x 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /lib/lib= c.so.6 0x28301000 0x28302000 1 0 0xc3a70ac8 r-x 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /lib/libc.= so.6 0x28302000 0x28308000 6 0 0xc49730f0 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC vnode /lib/libc= =2Eso.6 0x28308000 0x2831b000 9 0 0xc3f49bb8 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC default - 0x2831b000 0x2831f000 3 0 0xc3aba438 rwx 10 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x2831f000 0x2832a000 4 0 0xc3a71a50 r-x 6 4 0x0 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6/li= b/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so 0x2832a000 0x2832b000 1 0 0xc3a719d8 r-x 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6= /lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so 0x2832b000 0x2832c000 1 0 0xc3a71960 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /usr/X11R6= /lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.so 0x2832c000 0x28394000 0 0 0xc3a718e8 r-x 18 12 0x0 COW NC vnode /usr/local/= lib/libfreetype.so.9 0x28394000 0x28395000 1 0 0xc3a71870 r-x 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /usr/local= /lib/libfreetype.so.9 0x28395000 0x28398000 3 0 0xc3a717f8 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NC vnode /usr/local= /lib/libfreetype.so.9 0x28398000 0x283a8000 16 0 0xc3aba438 rwx 10 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x283a8000 0x283aa000 2 0 0xc457aca8 rwx 5 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x283aa000 0x283b2000 0 0 0xc457aca8 rwx 5 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x283b2000 0x283b4000 0 0 0xc457aca8 rwx 5 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x283bd000 0x283c4000 7 0 0xc3d5cca8 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC default - 0x283c4000 0x283de000 0 0 0xc414abb8 rwx 3 0 0x190 NCOW NNC swap - 0x28400000 0x2a400000 8192 0 0xc3aba438 rwx 10 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x2a400000 0x2ac00000 2048 0 0xc3aba438 rwx 10 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x2ac00000 0x2ac40000 9 0 0xc3aba438 rwx 10 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x2ac40000 0x2b540000 0 0 0xc457aca8 rwx 5 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x2b540000 0x2bd40000 0 0 0xc457aca8 rwx 5 0 0x180 NCOW NNC device - 0x2bd40000 0x2bda0000 50 0 0xc51fc960 rwx 3 0 0x190 NCOW NNC swap - 0x2bda0000 0x2be00000 96 0 0xc4443528 rwx 3 0 0x190 NCOW NNC swap - 0xbfba0000 0xbfbe0000 56 0 0xc56ca870 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NC default - 0xbfbe0000 0xbfc00000 32 0 0xc51d52d0 rwx 1 0 0x2180 COW NNC default - 0+1 records in 0+1 records out 4110 bytes transferred in 0.045363 secs (90603 bytes/sec) server#=20 Note that my 6.9.0 map is about 3 times as large. --=20 Peter Jeremy --96YOpH+ONegL0A3E Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFD4bw5/opHv/APuIcRAjYAAKC0vMVccXnoVwkhzuWixUTOVaXr/wCgoK+Y eSW7S8r5vPetFtVKNGBFn6k= =xFtS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --96YOpH+ONegL0A3E--