From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 14 19:08:47 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1244C16A41C; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:08:47 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from tinker.exit.com (tinker.exit.com [206.223.0.1]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A910F43D46; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:08:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6EJ8kF7018836; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:08:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by realtime.exit.com (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j6EJ8j0G084778; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:08:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.13.3/8.12.9/Submit) id j6EJ8jjh084777; Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:08:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) X-Authentication-Warning: realtime.exit.com: frank set sender to frank@exit.com using -f From: Frank Mayhar To: Brooks Davis In-Reply-To: <20050714185851.GE19351@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <20050714182136.071B35D07@ptavv.es.net> <20050714192403.H35071@fledge.watson.org> <20050714185851.GE19351@odin.ac.hmc.edu> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Exit Consulting Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:08:45 -0700 Message-Id: <1121368125.83653.12.camel@realtime.exit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.2.3 FreeBSD GNOME Team Port X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV 0.86.1/978/Thu Jul 14 04:37:27 2005 on tinker.exit.com X-Virus-Status: Clean Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Robert Watson Subject: Re: Problems with OpenBSD dhclient X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: frank@exit.com List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:08:47 -0000 On Thu, 2005-07-14 at 11:58 -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > I'm seeing this as well. I think we're going to need to handle wireless > and wired interfaces differently since their links work differently. I tend to disagree with this view. In general, while wired connections may often be more persistent than wireless connections, that's not necessarily always true. It's certainly possible to move a system between wired connections as well I think that it makes more sense for the configuration of the two types to be the same, anyway, just for consistency. It's the same basic problem that is being solved, and if the solution for wireless interfaces is reasonably robust, it should work just fine for wired ones as well. IMHO, of course. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/ http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/