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Date:      Fri, 29 Jul 2005 10:40:11 -0500
From:      Paul Schmehl <pauls@utdallas.edu>
To:        ports@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: New port with maintainer ports@FreeBSD.org [was: Question about maintainers]
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--On Friday, July 29, 2005 13:12:52 +0200 Pav Lucistnik <pav@FreeBSD.org>=20
wrote:

> Lupe Christoph p=ED=A8e v p=E1 29. 07. 2005 v 12:59 +0200:
>> Quoting Pav Lucistnik <pav@freebsd.org>:
>> > Paul Schmehl p=ED=B9e v =E8t 28. 07. 2005 v 16:31 -0500:
>>
>> > > Thanks, Scot.  That's helpful to know.  I wasn't aware, for example,
>> > > that anyone could submit PRs for a broken port.
>>
>> > Please don't do that, unless you also submit a fix.
>>
>> > Because committers are few and usually are not very familiar with the
>> > given broken port. Such PRs tend to be left untouched for years and
>> > then swept under the carpet too often.
>>
>> I see such PRs as useful. At least the save effort for people having
>> the same problem, pointing them to a known deficiency. And they *might*
>> still get fixed.
>
> In theory, yes.
>
> In practice, majority of them never see a single followup and all they
> serve for is to keep GNATS numbers high.
>
How about this?

Write a script that parses the submit dates.  After an agreed upon amount=20
of time with no action (6 months?  A year?) the PR gets automatically nuked =

and the original submitter gets an email message - Dear John, we're sorry,=20
but nothing was done to correct the problem you submitted in prxxxxx.=20
(Copy of the original PR attached.)  If this problem remains unresolved and =

needs to be resolved, please resubmit under a new PR.

That would at least put the onus on the PR submitter to followup on the=20
original submission, and, I would think, eliminate "non-serious"=20
submissions eventually.

Paul Schmehl (pauls@utdallas.edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/



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