From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Mar 6 11:29:24 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1136C106566B for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:29:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from angel.ticketswitch.com (angel.ticketswitch.com [IPv6:2002:57e0:1d4e::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD588FC20 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2008 11:29:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from petefrench@ticketswitch.com) Received: from [10.50.50.2] (helo=smaug.rattatosk) by angel.ticketswitch.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.68 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JXEHq-0006hH-DT; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:29:22 +0000 Received: from dilbert.rattatosk ([10.50.50.6] helo=dilbert.ticketswitch.com) by smaug.rattatosk with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JXEHq-000IXO-BY; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:29:22 +0000 Received: from petefrench by dilbert.ticketswitch.com with local (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1JXEHq-0001sQ-B1; Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:29:22 +0000 To: peterjeremy@optushome.com.au, ruben@verweg.com In-Reply-To: <20080306104139.GX68971@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org> Message-Id: From: Pete French Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:29:22 +0000 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: INET6 -- and why I don't use it X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:29:24 -0000 > Agreed. But at this stage I can't justify the effort to do anything > more than have a very cursory glance it at. What benefit would I > derive from setting up an IPv6 network and attempting to experiment > with it? My ISP won't support IPv6 and I'm reasonably certain my > cable-modem doesn't either so IPv6 connectivity would entail some > sort of tunnel. man stf I havent yet found an ISP on which that doesnt work, as it simply uses IPv4 packets to do the job. I assume thats what someone earlier in the thread meant when they said that you can have IPv6 right now on any ISP. It's also incredibly easy to setup - three lines in rc.conf, and no need to talk to any tunnel brrokers or anything. You just enable it and it goes. I belive windows Vista enables 6to4 automaticly if you have a public IP address, so anyone with Vista and an ISP is already using IPv6. Apple Airports also do this, and dish out IPv6 addresses to the equipment which is getting IPv4 NAT on the inside - again, people get it without knowing about it. It's here working right now I think it is slightly poiuntless for home use currently, but in the workplace the lack of NAT has a big advantage - I can just connect to any machine diirectly (and from my home machines too). If you are in a situation where you manage a lot of machine and need to ssh into them to work on them then it's a godsend. -pete.