From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jan 7 07:17:50 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85100106566C for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:17:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpagnoni@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gx0-f11.google.com (mail-gx0-f11.google.com [209.85.217.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAF88FC12 for ; Wed, 7 Jan 2009 07:17:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from gpagnoni@gmail.com) Received: by gxk4 with SMTP id 4so268985gxk.19 for ; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:17:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=X0U7QK717+x7DAxlsSqQy0hZfBsLg8EkerrZrLXPF0Q=; b=d61/KZdNPHnlnQMsUKlzLqemcTILCwl/j1fUesu/VsZrZp/abrHbdQjJyhfV6Hi6bH K/2rQxvTfpEJw80foXNcLWouyaVe2gvgtj4gbN4/aQZ+bIXAlerW6mvb3VXwsBK/AowY +Tjq1dAxlRblFkrSlKTSx3GJVcVrHVwhTiDw0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=IVjQ2GjHFWHeDvGmM0dHHaOd+V3s5fb+/mA1F4pe9bcTeovkZlaABLc5wNP0B/ZKcn OZma+CPLD/RaoTaNDjoZ3X+Myd/XrAt91ZKxcu/I7fnLu56MtX7k/4Fb6WdkYKpRxfNZ 5j0/j5QLbziES2CXnmlOT4ovhXUFqrGrr/D28= Received: by 10.64.243.19 with SMTP id q19mr16922221qbh.50.1231312668937; Tue, 06 Jan 2009 23:17:48 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.137.10 with HTTP; Tue, 6 Jan 2009 23:17:48 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <92056ebc0901062317n2022daf2s8990dc78255f87e4@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2009 08:17:48 +0100 From: "Giuseppe Pagnoni" To: "Paul Procacci" In-Reply-To: <4963EE76.1050808@datapipe.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <92056ebc0901061334o40f37463y84cdfda54e281126@mail.gmail.com> <4963D96E.7090700@datapipe.com> <92056ebc0901061455r10bc4c53wee01d10e2fb96a7f@mail.gmail.com> <4963ED66.4050309@datapipe.com> <4963EE76.1050808@datapipe.com> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD 7.1, nvidia-driver, GeForce 8500 GT X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 07:17:50 -0000 Dear Paul, thank you very much for your help, that surely clarifies things. best giuseppe On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 12:51 AM, Paul Procacci wrote: > Paul Procacci wrote: >> >> Giuseppe Pagnoni wrote: >>> >>> Hello, >>> >>> well that is interesting. I do have 4 Gigs of RAM but I thought that >>> the nvidia driver would not work only if the 64 bit version of FreeBSD >>> was installed. I installed the i386 version, so I assumed that I was >>> just wasting some memory. In case I would want to use the nvidia >>> driver, would you suggest to remove 1GB stick of RAM? >>> >>> thank you very much >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Paul Procacci >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Giuseppe Pagnoni wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dear all, >>>>> >>>>> I have just installed FreeBSD 7.1 Release on a machine with a GeForce >>>>> 8500 GT (I think this is the card, but more about that later...) and >>>>> an LCD screen with a native resolution of 1680 x 1050. >>>>> >>>>> Xorg works fine with the standard "nv" driver. However, if I try to >>>>> install the x11/nvidia-driver (which should bring better graphic >>>>> performance, right?) I get a total system freeze when I start the X >>>>> server. >>>>> >>>>> Here are the details of what I have done: >>>>> >>>>> 1) install x11/nvidia-driver >>>>> 2) add nvidia_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf >>>>> 3) modify /etc/X11/xorg.conf by substituting "nvidia" to "nv" in the >>>>> Driver line. >>>>> >>>>> At this point (after rebooting), if I start the X server with startx, >>>>> I get a black screen and the system *completely* hangs (neither >>>>> ctrl-alt-backspace, nor even ctrl-alt-delete work). The only way to >>>>> get back the system is to power it off and on (which corrupts the >>>>> filesystem because it has not been properly dismounted). >>>>> >>>>> I also looked at the xorg log file in: >>>>> >>>>> /var/log/Xorg.0.log >>>>> >>>>> Interestingly it seems to detect the card as a GeForce 9500 GT rather >>>>> than a 8500 GT (which makes me wonder whether I got the right info >>>>> from the vendor receipt): >>>>> >>>>> (--) Assigning device section with no busID to primary device >>>>> (--) Chipset GeForce 9500 GT found >>>>> >>>>> But this should not be an issue because in the same log file it says >>>>> that both GeForce 8500 GT and GeForce 9500 GT are supported by the >>>>> "nv" driver. >>>>> >>>>> As for the monitor, the xorg log file says: >>>>> >>>>> II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: >>>>> (II) NV(0): clock: 146.2 MHz Image Size: 473 x 296 mm >>>>> (II) NV(0): h_active: 1680 h_sync: 1784 h_sync_end 1960 h_blank_end >>>>> 2240 h_border: 0 >>>>> (II) NV(0): v_active: 1050 v_sync: 1053 v_sync_end 1059 v_blanking: >>>>> 1089 v_border: 0 >>>>> (II) NV(0): Ranges: V min: 56 V max: 75 Hz, H min: 28 H max: 83 kHz, >>>>> PixClock max 150 MHz(II) >>>>> >>>>> NV(0): Monitor name: L226WA >>>>> (II) NV(0): Supported additional Video Mode: >>>>> (II) NV(0): clock: 119.0 MHz Image Size: 473 x 296 mm >>>>> (II) NV(0): h_active: 1680 h_sync: 1728 h_sync_end 1760 h_blank_end >>>>> 1840 h_border: 0 >>>>> (II) NV(0): v_active: 1050 v_sync: 1053 v_sync_end 1059 v_blanking: >>>>> 1080 v_border: 0 >>>>> >>>>> Then the log file says: >>>>> >>>>> (II) NV(0): Output VGA1 disconnected >>>>> (II) NV(0): Output DVI0 disconnected >>>>> (II) NV(0): Output VGA2 disconnected >>>>> (II) NV(0): Output DVI1 connected >>>>> (II) NV(0): Output DVI1 using initial mode 1680x1050 >>>>> (--) NV(0): Virtual size is 1680x1680 (pitch 1792) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1680x1050": 146.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 65.3 kHz, 60.0 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x60.0 146.25 1680 1784 1960 2240 >>>>> 1050 1053 1059 1089 -hsync +vsync (65.3 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1680x1050": 119.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 64.7 kHz, 59.9 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x59.9 119.00 1680 1728 1760 1840 >>>>> 1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1280x1024": 135.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 80.0 kHz, 75.0 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x75.0 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 >>>>> 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1280x1024": 109.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 63.7 kHz, 59.9 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x59.9 109.00 1280 1368 1496 1712 >>>>> 1024 1027 1034 1063 -hsync +vsync (63.7 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1440x900": 136.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 70.6 kHz, 75.0 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1440x900"x75.0 136.75 1440 1536 1688 1936 900 >>>>> 903 909 942 -hsync +vsync (70.6 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1440x900": 106.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 55.9 kHz, 59.9 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1440x900"x59.9 106.50 1440 1528 1672 1904 900 >>>>> 903 909 934 -hsync +vsync (55.9 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1280x960": 101.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 59.7 kHz, 59.9 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1280x960"x59.9 101.25 1280 1360 1488 1696 960 >>>>> 963 967 996 -hsync +vsync (59.7 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1152x864": 108.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 67.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1152x864"x75.0 108.00 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 >>>>> 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync (67.5 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1152x864": 104.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 67.7 kHz, 74.8 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1152x864"x74.8 104.00 1152 1224 1344 1536 864 >>>>> 867 871 905 -hsync +vsync (67.7 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x75.1 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 >>>>> 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.1 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "1024x768": 65.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 48.4 kHz, 60.0 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "1024x768"x60.0 65.00 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 >>>>> 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "832x624": 57.3 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 49.7 kHz, 74.6 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "832x624"x74.6 57.28 832 864 928 1152 624 625 >>>>> 628 667 -hsync -vsync (49.7 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x75.0 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 >>>>> 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "800x600": 40.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 37.9 kHz, 60.3 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x60.3 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 >>>>> 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "800x600": 36.0 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 35.2 kHz, 56.2 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "800x600"x56.2 36.00 800 824 896 1024 600 601 >>>>> 603 625 +hsync +vsync (35.2 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x75.0 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 >>>>> 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "640x480"x60.0 25.20 640 656 752 800 480 490 >>>>> 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz) >>>>> (**) NV(0): Driver mode "720x400": 28.3 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), >>>>> 31.5 kHz, 70.1 Hz >>>>> (II) NV(0): Modeline "720x400"x70.1 28.32 720 738 846 900 400 412 >>>>> 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz) >>>>> (==) NV(0): DPI set to (96, 96) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> After this rather long post (I apologize), I have two simple questions: >>>>> 1) is there a way to use the "nvidia" driver on this system? >>>>> 2) is it worthwhile or does "nv" work just as well? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks in advance for any help or suggestion. >>>>> >>>>> best >>>>> >>>>> giuseppe >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> How much memory do you have? Freebsd/Nvidia doesn't work with 4Gigs of >>>> memory OR PAE enabled kernels. Nvidia's forums have lots more >>>> information >>>> regarding this. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> I'm not sure of the internals exactly, but the amount of onboard memory >> plus the memory that comes with the card can't exceed 4G. (I could be >> wrong, but I think this is accurate). In this case, assuming you have a >> 512M card or similar then 3 Gigs of memory should work. I have seen reports >> of 2Gigs of memory working (i386) and am sure that works without problems. >> amd64 doesn't work at all, as you have already stated. >> >> If you have a requirement to use the nvidia based graphics driver, then >> you really don't have an alternative at this time, then to remove system >> memory from your main board. >> >> ~Paul >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > > Posting a follow-up to myself: > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=1700234 > -- Giuseppe Pagnoni Dip. Scienze Biomediche Sezione Fisiologia Univ. di Modena e Reggio Emilia Via Campi 287 I-41100 Modena, Italy Tel: +39-059-205-5742 Fax: +39-059-205-5363