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Date:      Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:33:11 -0800
From:      Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca>
To:        Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group <Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca>
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Removal of Disklabel 
Message-ID:  <200011212033.eALKXxk25460@cwsys.cwsent.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:23:26 PST." <200011212023.eALKNwF25397@cwsys.cwsent.com> 

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I see that my table didn't format properly.


Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
Province of BC

In message <200011212023.eALKNwF25397@cwsys.cwsent.com>, Cy Schubert - 
ITSD Ope
n Systems Group writes:
> In message <xzpn1etf7st.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no>, Dag-Erling Smorgrav 
> writes:
> > FreeBSD <freebsd@KIWI-Computer.com> writes:
> > > The problem with the fdisk slices is that there is only room for 4 ...
> > > disklabel gives us 8, no wait..  6 if you have a swap and 5 if you don't.
> > 
> > Six (a, d, e, f, g, h) plus swap (b), and there's nothing that says b
> > has to be a swap partition, so make that seven. There's nothing that
> > says a swap partition has to be partition b either, BTW.
> > 
> > Technically, you can use c as well, but that's playing with fire.
> 
> I'm on tangent mode this afternoon, so this is not a direct reply.
> 
> The use of various slices, e.g. "c" for the whole disk, is steeped in 
> tradition, when some sites would use a dd(1) command to backup disks to 
> tape or to other disks.  Similarly slice "a" was used for the root 
> partition and slice "b" was used for swap, and "g" & "h" were used for 
> /usr and /export -- at least that's the say Sun sets up their systems.  
> The "d" and "e" slices were used to divide the disk in half, if you 
> didn't want to use any of the others.
> 
> For the newbies out there, read Evi Nemith's UNIX System Administration 
> Handbook.  The first edition had a good explanation of this topic with 
> pictures.
> 
> For you newbies out there, the concept of slices and partitions in the 
> same breath may seem overwhelming, however here is how it works.
> 
> FreeBSD partitions a disk using the classic PC fdisk partitions (slices 
> in FreeBSD speak), so that a disk may be shared with non-FreeBSD 
> operating systems.  Disklabel partitions (partitions in FreeBSD speak) 
> are the native BSD and UNIX way of partitioning a disk.  As FreeBSD is 
> only supposed (logically from our point of view) to see the FreeBSD 
> partition and ignore the rest (non-FreeBSD slices for all intents and 
> purposes don't exist when we're running FreeBSD just like FreeBSD 
> slices don't exist when you're running NT), the partitions within a 
> slice mimic the traditional partitions on a disk on other UNIX systems, 
> e.g. Suns.  You newbies can consider FreeBSD partitions as 
> Microsoft/IBM extended partitions.
> 
> The other thing you newbies will notice is the word partition and slice 
> being used interchangeably.  BSD documentation uses the word partition 
> to describe a partition in the context of disklabel.  Of course IBM and 
> Microsoft also use that word to describe fdisk partitions (slices in 
> FreeBSD speak).  To add to the confusion, Sun and AT&T used the word 
> slices to describe their version of disklabel partitions, created by a 
> format(8) command.  This confusion of terms even confuses me who has 
> been working on UNIX for quite some time.  Just as everything else in 
> UNIX-land is supposed to be standard, every vendor and author of 
> software in this business recycles terms for their use.
> 
> Here's a Rosetta Stone for all you newbies who may be terribly confused 
> by all this partitions and slices speak.
> 
> Unit                   FreeBSD Speak     M$/IBM Speak            
> Sun/AT&T
> ~~~~                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~     ~~~~~~~~~~~~            
> ~~~~~~~~
> fdisk partition        slice             partition               -
> disklabel partition    partition         extended partition      slice
> 
> Of course Microsoft used AT&T's term slice to denote a disklabel 
> partition when they marketed Xenix.
> 
> Hence once again confusion reigns in the IT industry.  (Don't even get 
> me started about the telecommunications industry).
> 
> For you newbies, if you use the above table, hopefully you'll be less 
> confused.
> 
> 
> Regards,                       Phone:  (250)387-8437
> Cy Schubert                      Fax:  (250)387-5766
> Team Leader, Sun/DEC Team   Internet:  Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca
> Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA
> Province of BC
> 
> 
> 
> 
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