Date: Sun, 19 May 2019 13:12:45 -0500 From: Adam <amvandemore@gmail.com> To: Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk> Cc: Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, Graham Perrin <grahamperrin@gmail.com>, FreeBSD Current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: FreeBSD Core Team Response to Controversial Social Media Posts Message-ID: <CA%2BtpaK297Nvh=tZxn3iZ3D4-atBFix7whZ7DiOt6pvd6s=SqPA@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CADWvR2h9DWY05X2FSgFYVKcBR3EVhient9QmEjrVB00U9eWstw@mail.gmail.com> References: <868svf6r05.fsf@phe.ftfl.ca> <CADWvR2hekmiTeUxoJ=AOstgbWbVpjs6YYzx6syVN9kVcR3bfHw@mail.gmail.com> <CADWvR2i9jic44r4CbmA=rTn-Ej=9Ex439gUO7syZfj_6jmygzg@mail.gmail.com> <e5586cc9-672e-414e-9d63-2c3df50b6abd@www.fastmail.com> <CADWvR2hx%2BYbf5GxpwhjzeX_9Zkk0h_Gc2ftC7nypyuNAJP14=A@mail.gmail.com> <ed052186-1de9-1a7a-1c18-e3b57fdeb96c@gmail.com> <CANCZdfo6HrPdKeWHgZt5-2agb8deXETjmf7HNYO7Rf3ZnDWRZA@mail.gmail.com> <CADWvR2h9DWY05X2FSgFYVKcBR3EVhient9QmEjrVB00U9eWstw@mail.gmail.com>
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On Sun, May 19, 2019, 12:42 PM Igor Mozolevsky <igor@hybrid-lab.co.uk> wrote: > On Sun, 19 May 2019 at 17:54, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > On Sun, May 19, 2019, 10:25 AM Graham Perrin wrote: > > > > > I know, it's not appropriate to find fun in a serious discussion, but > > > these six words did make me chuckle: > > > > > > > =E2=80=A6 freedom of expression =E2=80=A6 End of discussion. > > > > > > No offence intended. I was speed-reading (waiting for a browser to > > > launch) and those six words leapt out at me :-) > > > > > > > Yes. There will always be limits, just like in real life. You can't tel= l > > fire in a theater, and claim freedom of expression, for example. > > <snip> > > While that is an often cited example, it is rather tenuous as far as > "freedom of expression" is concerned: yelling "Fire!" in a crowded > theatre is by no measure an expression of one's views, thoughts, or > opinions. > Additionally, the ruling from which that quote came was used to suppress dissent and imprison people for just that. It is a very shaking foundation on which to launch a censorship campaign. The main group was sentenced for yelling fire when there really was one. >
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