From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Oct 30 17:39:20 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17382E6A for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:39:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from mail-we0-f182.google.com (mail-we0-f182.google.com [74.125.82.182]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8713E8FC0A for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:39:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-we0-f182.google.com with SMTP id x43so309219wey.13 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:39:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=wemm.org; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=II6+cosgfpbnqFXsyNgMyW706MC8QrLVtPCQmxSiGp4=; b=jh5geZ2YsAkZ5kgkxXiuQnIoAd03c50g68HrYJgZSWx957cRo+xTBr0MngrRD/cSSb jMWUfIviyJoy8+oyPKHceb4HTWsLOa8VRaxkRjIbGVNPhsLKOigK+OyZOMV4QBi3Y3Vd eacDtkcC0o0bUSdUzgzlqFDjug3Mor4zXbn88= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=google.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:x-gm-message-state; bh=II6+cosgfpbnqFXsyNgMyW706MC8QrLVtPCQmxSiGp4=; b=oqKAoiLQDyzpLj7uptkssm+Ur4wyBjiDF4KUwhYp3OfRdsfP0WoNGs4YLGkJ1vbSKN zCtS40CJCIOxSY3yNRA2HcizmoCzw8farIrSJ0HMH5k5pjW24JwlaoinLz6Dtn6M1FKT 0ZuKAsp+Qb6+EAbAlcavdnsKzmt2dbpYhqeEywLeLHYc+BBE1UQ8y/D9IC2ONtDM6/yY LJ0Qe/mLqhDM3uqEofpM92iuA314kW1VyhqfmuxsPuTl17koDsw78MCc/uT+PB2cblXB xAMs+qWrqzCZXaUGp8uoe/rt8ZGA6+Uv+bMHH98H+8TSgZ9mVH6TZuu5GQ9sE/cU01gZ rmHQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.202.97 with SMTP id c75mr14300304weo.211.1351618758372; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:39:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.62.130 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:39:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <038C004A-6177-472D-A328-90830E04F640@cederstrand.dk> References: <4E593932.8060303@FreeBSD.org> <86sj928vks.fsf@ds4.des.no> <4FB39F66-0434-43F1-9705-3C81CDF2A25F@cederstrand.dk> <86ehkm8s5v.fsf@ds4.des.no> <0EF669C7-0ED4-4BD4-9170-C49A7CA91603@cederstrand.dk> <20121025193115.GD40357@in-addr.com> <20121030082900.GH3309@server.rulingia.com> <35AB4227-2053-4678-BE71-576B01E48FE1@cederstrand.dk> <038C004A-6177-472D-A328-90830E04F640@cederstrand.dk> Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 10:39:18 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: How about finally replacing GNATS? From: Peter Wemm To: Erik Cederstrand Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmB9da5KVnP7URGhrxbKRUd+V4xVsEIQWccgiyMEZe2rfAlcSlty4VPuLH+6msSJzxIVPY7 Cc: Eitan Adler , Adrian Chadd , "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , Dag-Erling Sm?rgrav X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2012 17:39:20 -0000 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Erik Cederstrand wrote: [..] > I'm not suggesting send-pr should go. I even provided a script to keep using it with Bugzilla. I'm just curious what's so great about it in 2012. Offline is a good argument, and HTTP sucks at offline. But I am. Once we switch to bugzilla or (whatever the flavor of the day is), we should remove send-pr from top-of-tree on all the active branches and replace it with clear instructions for how to get to bugzilla (and how to email yourself information to cut/paste into a bugzilla ticket if we're really worried that people don't know how to do that). Yes, we'll be stuck with the old installations of send-pr, which we'll have to handle. Mark my words.. once the majority of submissions come in via bugzilla, the old send-pr submissions will feel like a thorn in our sides and we'll be wishing they'll die out faster. Incidentally, did you know you can still subscribe/unsubscribe to freebsd.org mailing lists using the majordomo interface? I think. And no, I'm not going to reverse engineer that one. That is dying with this round of updates. -- Peter Wemm - peter@wemm.org; peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; KI6FJV "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 "If Java had true garbage collection, most programs would delete themselves upon execution." -- Robert Sewell