Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 08:40:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Rick C. Petty" <rick@KIWI-Computer.com> To: freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: misc/22332: request to add more active ttys by default Message-ID: <200010271540.IAA72976@freefall.freebsd.org>
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The following reply was made to PR misc/22332; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Rick C. Petty" <rick@KIWI-Computer.com> To: Doug Barton <DougB@gorean.org> Cc: rick@kiwi-computer.com, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: misc/22332: request to add more active ttys by default Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 10:35:44 -0500 (CDT) > In my totally unofficial opinion, having 8 virtual terminals is twice > too many for most people. I can't imagine a user sophisticated enough to > "need" 24 tty's who isn't also smart enough to take the 3.5 seconds to > edit /etc/ttys and HUP init. In my experience, if it's available, people will use it. I've setup 12 vtys for many people, included unsophisticated users who have no clue what HUP or even a signal is (asside from a traffic light). In one case a business running SCO that I enabled 12 screens when they were given three by default. Initially they were worried about getting lost with so many screens, but after talking to them months later, nearly all their (l)users used all screens. Plus it saves them time when one screen is waiting for a job to complete. These are people who don't even know their system is a unix and who have never heard of unix. Lots of people I know & have setup freebsd for also use all 12 screens. These people barely know how to code much less would dare doing anything as root. IMHO, I think if you give them extra stuff users will use them. If they get lost or don't use more than 1-4, why give them 8? We went to a default of 8 some time ago (forgot which release) and many people were happy to have more terms by default. I'm suggesting that unless there's a very good reason not to give out 12 such as hardware limitations for some deprecated keyboards, I say give 'em all 12. One idea I've been toying with is disabling vty0 (alt-F1) so that console messages end up there & stay there, without the hassle of logins interrupting important system messages. But I wasn't gonna make that suggestion.. I can hear it now: "My system doesn't give me a Login: prompt anymore!" --Rick C. Petty, aka Snoopy rick@kiwi-computer.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Senior Software Engineer, KIWI Computer http://kiwi-computer.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-bugs" in the body of the message
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