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Date:      Mon, 1 Dec 1997 19:36:01 -0700 (MST)
From:      Charles Mott <cmott@srv.net>
To:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: annoying spammers... 
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.971201192212.9282A-100000@darkstar.home>
In-Reply-To: <199712020158.TAA05538@nospam.hiwaay.net>

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On Mon, 1 Dec 1997, David Kelly wrote:
> > We have the domain html.com.  We have had it for over 3 years now, but
> > recently millions of spam messages have gone out on the net with a from
> > line of 1234567@html.com (the address is always some random number).  All
> > the bounce messages come our server, despite the fact that we didn't send
> > them.  I had to remove the server's ability to recieve mail at html.com
> > about 2 weeks ago, as it was getting several hundred return mails a
> > minute.  It now routes all mail to <number>@html.com to /dev/null.  Not
> > that it stops my mailbox from filling up with requests from people who
> > don't know how to read a fscking header who send mail to us whining about
> > being removed from our lists.  *sigh*
> 
> I've often wondered if problems like this couldn't be solved cheaply 
> with lawyers. Yes, I said "cheap" and "lawyer" in the same sentence.
> The idea goes something like this, you advertise for a law firm,
> publicly. You offer a deal whereby you forward all your spam to the law
> firm. The law firm gets to keep any $ they collect from spammers. The
> law firm pays you time and material for a connection to your ISP and any
> support required in court.
> 
> Wonder if it would work?
> 

Contingency fee lawyers rarely like suing individuals.  Companies make
better targets.  The pay isn't that good and when you directly and
personally threaten the well being of an individual, especially a low
life spammer, there are risks to consider which fall outside the
courtroom.

My guess is that if contingency fee attorneys had their way, they would
sue spam-tolerant backbones and innocent owners of hijacked relays,
especially if those owners had deep pockets.  Observe the progress of a
civil lawsuit sometime.  The plaintiffs search for money rather than
justice.

Charles Mott




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