From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Aug 12 21:08:58 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D3F6106573F for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:08:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr [150.140.141.169]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB168FC44 for ; Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:08:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr (unknown [10.1.0.143]) by poseidon.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64191EB56BE; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52DCB450D0; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:56 +0300 (EEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ceid.upatras.gr Received: from mail.ceid.upatras.gr ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (europa.ceid.upatras.gr [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Hg80aLVUlMEY; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (adsl218-136.kln.forthnet.gr [79.103.31.136]) by mail.ceid.upatras.gr (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EBD45088; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:56 +0300 (EEST) Received: from kobe.laptop (kobe.laptop [127.0.0.1]) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id n7CL8ska046742 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:55 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by kobe.laptop (8.14.3/8.14.3/Submit) id n7CL8qtq046741; Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:52 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Henry Olyer References: <4A6A72A6.1030009@ibctech.ca> <4A820F9C.8030709@ibctech.ca> <4A8210D8.4050601@ibctech.ca> <200908111840.05008.mel.flynn+fbsd.questions@mailing.thruhere.net> <1d7089c40908121249u75b97303xde1269985f0055e8@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:08:52 +0300 In-Reply-To: <1d7089c40908121249u75b97303xde1269985f0055e8@mail.gmail.com> (Henry Olyer's message of "Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:49:17 -0400") Message-ID: <8763cseo4b.fsf@kobe.laptop> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1.50 (berkeley-unix) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Steve Bertrand Subject: Re: A question for developers X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:08:58 -0000 On Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:49:17 -0400, Henry Olyer wrote: > Look, use Joe. > > You won't ever want anything else -- you'll soon forget about > meta-escape-alt-@ while holding down the esc-tab-plus key, all the > while wishing you had three hands. That's not a very good way of describing editors/joe. It is unfair both to other editors and to joe itself. There *are* good points about joe, eg.: - It works very well even with pretty dumb terminals. - It has a very small footprint - It supports many features a `coder' expects (auto indentation, custom tab sizes, macros, etc.) It is much nicer to describe the *good* points about joe, instead of making silly jokes about keyboard shortcuts in other editors.