From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue May 17 11:29:21 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 979D8B3E204 for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 11:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x22f.google.com (mail-wm0-x22f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3C1D01793 for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 11:29:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id a17so25409427wme.0 for ; Tue, 17 May 2016 04:29:21 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tj8c6zgmFRnDDv8bPj7bl0CKcjbz80gazHIUNwUGNoQ=; b=zCD6Vh+V1s1xUaX9I+69kgZ5W3M+6yC2snJbqBtxq2ehu8Z5wczTUtdZC+QWfPpOMQ eJL1pk7Dc441ANJia4vQL93F1fY3G2mhvzepxzkv+AqAW1/LdONOWYKjg7ICpbsaqH1s 8JVbQEDbYhZyCSM99SNaQXYY4uRok+Xs3vJTnMsFxjgHS2nZqhuIh5Gm/9Bgqj8qfPAJ IlMpLwEKhaapiP2njdtdQWTro8M1dgFz1UVDY5X6iFYT7Y0XYMcGaLoPwlf7xIvRZu3m l7/ysk3S/iD9d2pYqn6DRdQgSKK04W/RLkac10jJW+7XUgQRN8kB6DFfFA0PXgJdoEdg gMpA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Tj8c6zgmFRnDDv8bPj7bl0CKcjbz80gazHIUNwUGNoQ=; b=UQHGLDycmN7vH+BiHWdgwyM126tHiWYUF/wX6+zMAOA+AKI9YqU8+wJSs2mA+PWzB0 ZPfQhwIZrEsyZdQsCTlgveWqa0O+35ulkuSapGxCLyixze4k8HMXx4mxBHXbX6FtAltt QXo2RDX51Sh7dkHWqYJcENBThEUwLhHespff17ApWmBhx2W88oubj+t9voqGm85DdPoz FnMHbyaoPdT7r07kXRt6Fva4qmP0hb7AGBI9PjwckxHylcIzZW7bYL2bGs9Hf0uDEQHH CfSpG23f85DNrnKES86QRbhNnm4VPTGeFULQ24/yZNTQsegm4DXZ5jl3bJDTH+8V5iYX ngXA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FX6NnqHvWc1RPWSBiJFWLotpVeEUI8YjPjp5L24NWS9k4ajxJO4x14AUsK6SVNppg== X-Received: by 10.28.156.86 with SMTP id f83mr21954088wme.45.1463484559474; Tue, 17 May 2016 04:29:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([94.0.150.119]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id xt9sm2606030wjb.17.2016.05.17.04.29.17 for (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 May 2016 04:29:18 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 12:29:15 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 10.3 base ntpd leap-seconds. list file expires 2016-06-01 Message-ID: <20160517122915.209635ba@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20160517053125.GA21546@bali> References: <5734FBDF.700@gmail.com> <20160513110143.GA99635@bali> <20160517053125.GA21546@bali> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.29; amd64-portbld-freebsd10.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 11:29:21 -0000 On Tue, 17 May 2016 07:31:25 +0200 Andre Albsmeier wrote: > On Fri, 13-May-2016 at 14:36:01 +0200, Trond Endrest=C3=B8l wrote: > > On Fri, 13 May 2016 13:01+0200, Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > =20 > > > On Fri, 13-May-2016 at 08:05:21 +0200, Trond Endrest=C3=B8l wrote: =20 > > > > On Thu, 12 May 2016 17:55-0400, Ernie Luzar wrote: > > > So the new file expires after the old file (which is good) but > > > its version is lower than the version of the old file. Since > > > /etc/rc.d/ntpd compares the versions it finally sticks with the > > > old file... dre =20 > >=20 > > Would it make more sense to use=20 > > https://hpiers.obspm.fr/iers/bul/bulc/ntp/leap-seconds.list from > > the Earth orientation Center of the IERS? > >=20 > > That file has currently the following characteristics: > >=20 > > #$ 3661632000 > > # File expires on 28 December 2016 > > #@ 3691872000 =20 >=20 > As assumed, with this file all messages were gone. Probably > /etc/rc.d/ntpd should be changed to just check the expiry > consistently and don't look a the version at all... I think what's going on is that the IERS version uses the time when the file was last modified, so the timestamp changes each time the expiry is increased. The IETF only change the timestamp when a leap second is added.