From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Aug 24 8:34: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kci.kciLink.com (kci.kciLink.com [204.117.82.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B89E037B422 for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 08:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [204.117.82.2]) by kci.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C574E89F for ; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:34:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA03657; Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:34:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera@kci.kciLink.com) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14757.16490.269381.416596@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:34:02 -0400 (EDT) To: FreeBSD Stable List Subject: Re: nuking "unsafe" protocols (was Re: Upcoming rc.conf changes not loading certain currently loaded daemons) In-Reply-To: <20000824162123.A80150@irrelevant.org> References: <200008241201.IAA32736@sanson.reyes.somos.net> <20000824080419.B51628@dazed.slacker.com> <14757.15655.515615.780499@onceler.kciLink.com> <20000824162123.A80150@irrelevant.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "s" == simond writes: s> On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 11:20:07AM -0400, Vivek Khera wrote: >> >>>>> "DM" == David McNett writes: >> DM> If someone insists on using those antiquated and unsafe protocols like DM> telnet and the r* services, we should at least make sure they're doing it DM> on purpose and not just leaving the defaults in place out of ignorance. >> >> How do you make rdump/rmt work without the rcmd service? I've got a >> LAN and do all backups of workstations to one server with a tape >> drive. Without the rshd service, it won't work. s> In that case just turn on the rshd from rc.conf, easy. Yes, but then how does one ever eradicate "those antiquated and unsafe protocols" from the system? Is there a way to make rmt work without rshd? There will be a lot of unexpected breakage I'm sure. Perhaps it should be documented what normal use programs (like rdump/rrestore/tar using rmt) will break if you turn off certain services that are currently on by default. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Vivek Khera, Ph.D. Khera Communications, Inc. Internet: khera@kciLink.com Rockville, MD +1-301-545-6996 GPG & MIME spoken here http://www.khera.org/~vivek/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message