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Date:      Sat, 9 Aug 1997 21:24:59 +0200
From:      j@uriah.heep.sax.de (J Wunsch)
To:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Cc:        jamil@counterintelligence.ml.org (Jamil J. Weatherbee)
Subject:   Re: ISDN drivers/cards
Message-ID:  <19970809212459.FE61477@uriah.heep.sax.de>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.970809110647.7721B-100000@counterintelligence.ml.org>; from Jamil J. Weatherbee on Aug 9, 1997 11:12:17 -0700
References:  <19970809055307.20710@grendel.IAEhv.nl> <Pine.BSF.3.96.970809110647.7721B-100000@counterintelligence.ml.org>

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As Jamil J. Weatherbee wrote:

>  My tests hav concluded that the latency
> across an isdn connection with a router is about 15ms (30ms ping) where as
> with a TA 50ms (100ms) ping is considered good depending on if you are
> going from TA to TA or TA to Router, I'd love to see an internal card that
> doesn't use 16550's that I can put in my freebsd machine and get good
> performance out of

The dumb cards based on the Siemens chipset BISDN is currently
supporting aren't UART-based either, and here's my ping RTT:

j@uriah 1139% /sbin/ping ifb-gw2
PING ifb-gw2.interface-business.de (193.101.57.253): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 193.101.57.253: icmp_seq=0 ttl=60 time=36.421 ms
64 bytes from 193.101.57.253: icmp_seq=1 ttl=60 time=36.388 ms
64 bytes from 193.101.57.253: icmp_seq=2 ttl=60 time=36.506 ms
64 bytes from 193.101.57.253: icmp_seq=3 ttl=60 time=36.469 ms
^C
--- ifb-gw2.interface-business.de ping statistics ---
4 packets transmitted, 4 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 36.388/36.446/36.506 ms

Unfortunately, the ISDN landscape in the US is different from Europe.
Your Telco's didn't even decide for a single switch protocol yet, nor
do they market ISDN as *I*SDN.  In the result, you are left alone to
buy your network terminator, leading to a situation where most ISDN
hardware sold in the US AFAIK is being sold with a builtin NT (thereby
defeating the idea of an integrated service, with voice and data
connections over the same wire).  The cards currently supported by
BISDN do IMHO not ship with this feature (remember, these cards are in
the region of DEM 100...150, i.e. USD 60...90 -- the NT itself is a
multiple of this), nor has anybody volunteered yet to write the
protocol layers for your switch protocols.

-- 
cheers, J"org

joerg_wunsch@uriah.heep.sax.de -- http://www.sax.de/~joerg/ -- NIC: JW11-RIPE
Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. ;-)



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