From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Aug 10 10:44:17 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id KAA02291 for hackers-outgoing; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:44:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (root@time.cdrom.com [204.216.27.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA02286 for ; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:44:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from time.cdrom.com (jkh@localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by time.cdrom.com (8.8.6/8.6.9) with ESMTP id KAA01216; Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:43:31 -0700 (PDT) To: Brandon Gillespie cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: why bother submitting anything (via send-pr) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:50:27 MDT." Date: Sun, 10 Aug 1997 10:43:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1212.871235011@time.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > Basically, what i'm wondering (as a disgruntled person wanting to help but > seeming to be ignored) is why isn't there somebody simply responsible for > non-developer submissions? So far it seems that the way things work > around here is if a developer takes interest in it, it'll move forward, > otherwise too bad, mebbe one of the other *BSD systems will like it. There are two issues here: 1. We lost our GNATs admin, Mike Pritchard, and we've not yet found someone to do what he used to do - periodically audit the PR database and prod the appropriate people whenever it looks like something is being inadvertantly ignored. 2. Conventional wisdom has always been that rather than hope that someone will just automatically pick up something you've submitted via send-pr, after a reasonable interval (~2 weeks) it's perfectly acceptable to send a message to committers@freebsd.org and say "Yo! Anyone among the 97 of you there interested in picking this up? Please?" I've actually _yet_ to see this level of escallation fail, so I can't tell you what the next logical step would be. ;-) The nice thing about Mike was that he essentially did the #2 step on your behalf. Sure wish we could find someone else like him. :-( Jordan