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Date:      Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:58:32 -0400 
From:      Rick Siple <RickSiple@mpainc.com>
To:        "'Andrzej Bialecki'" <abial@nask.pl>
Cc:        "Small Mailing List (E-mail)" <freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   RE: P-n-P
Message-ID:  <11FFBC5E23EDD111AF8D006008CEB82D014D49@EXCHANGESERVER>

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	On a related note for those who are interested in seeing such a
thing in action, QNX has just this type of demo available.  If
interested try http://www.qnx.com/iat/index.html.  Pretty interesting,
QNX real-time OS and Photon microGUI windowing system (looks like X, but
under the hood I don't know).  Also includes, what I assume to be their
own, web browser and server.
	Pretty cool and pretty tiny.  But that is the business QNX is
in.  I see trouble for them in the future though from Windows CE.  Not
because CE is superior, just because it is compatible with the other
Windows OSes. Witness the recent announcement from Sega and Microsoft
regarding the use of Windows CE in Sega's next generation game console
'Dreamcast'.
http://www.microsoft.com/corpinfo/press/1998/may98/segagmpr.htm

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Rick Siple
RickSiple@MPAInc.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Andrzej Bialecki [SMTP:abial@nask.pl]
> Sent:	Friday, June 05, 1998 4:28 PM
> To:	Bryan Mann
> Cc:	freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG
> Subject:	Re: P-n-P
> 
> On Fri, 5 Jun 1998, Bryan Mann wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > Issue:
> > 
> > I'd like to be able to hand people a couple of picoBSD floppies
> > with a Java capable browser, possibly a trimmed communicator, have
> > them install it on on their DOS/Win3.1 machines and just work
> > similar to some Linux distributions.  The goal is to demonstrate
> > how much power their old machine has when using a better OS.
> 
> I like this idea too. But I doubt you can fit the browser on a floppy,
> and
> still have room for Java VM and the classes... I'm not saying it's
> impossible, I just would like to see it myself :-)) OTOH, if you have
> specific idea how to do this, I'd love to know it.
> 
> I already thought about this, and my idea was to prepare an image of
> FFS
> filesystem that could be put as a file on DOS partition, and then
> vnconfig
> it and mount as root. There you could fit all you want...
> 
> 
> Andrzej Bialecki
> 
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