From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Oct 10 0:14: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from primus.vsservices.com (primus.vsservices.com [63.66.136.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E75F637B403 for ; Wed, 10 Oct 2001 00:14:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from prime.vsservices.com (conr-adsl-dhcp-28-213.txucom.net [209.34.28.213]) by primus.vsservices.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f99EtJq41602; Tue, 9 Oct 2001 07:55:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gclarkii@vsservices.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: GB Clark II To: Lowell Gilbert , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: code density vs readability Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:55:22 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <9ptk3o$14kg$1@FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw> <44d73xt0y9.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> In-Reply-To: <44d73xt0y9.fsf@lowellg.ne.mediaone.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0110090955220A.07185@prime.vsservices.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday 09 October 2001 08:09, Lowell Gilbert wrote: > tms2@mail.ptd.net ("T.M. Sommers") writes: > > "Gary W. Swearingen" wrote: > > > j mckitrick writes: > > > > I finally took several people's advice. I didn't give up VI, but > > > > emacs is amazing for big, complicated jobs. > > > > > > I've been using only Emacs (actually mostly XEmacs and some small Emacs > > > clones like Jed) for a long time, but recently decided it would be > > > better to try to force myself to use vi for editing as root. (I > > > learned it 20 years ago and liked the two-mode concept, but I've > > > forgotten all but the very basics.) > > > > > > I got to worrying about the amount of Emacs code there is and to > > > suspect that much of it changes often and is seen by only a few eyes > > > and am thinking it will be safer from a security standpoint to run vi. > > > > > > Is that overly paranoid? Do other people have this concern? Do many > > > people run XEmacs or Emacs as root on a regular basis? Does vim have a > > > lot of similarly suspectable code in it too? > > > > If memory serves, the Great Worm of '88 exploited a security hole in > > Emacs (among other things). > > No. rsh, sendmail, and finger daemons. No user applications. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message Hi, There was at one time a hole in emacs that would let you write system files. This was about 8 or 9 years ago I belive. GB -- GB Clark II | Roaming FreeBSD Admin gclarkii@VSServices.COM | General Geek CTHULU for President - Why choose the lesser of two evils? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message