From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Dec 2 16:22:57 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304A41065673; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:22:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (rachie.is-a-geek.net [66.230.99.27]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAF728FC19; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 16:22:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) Received: from localhost (mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net [192.168.2.101]) by mail.rachie.is-a-geek.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBB01AFC1C6; Tue, 2 Dec 2008 07:22:55 -0900 (AKST) From: Mel To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2008 17:22:53 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.7 References: <200812020928.46110.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> <20081202161358.GC2158@ozzmosis.com> In-Reply-To: <20081202161358.GC2158@ozzmosis.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200812021722.54517.fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net> Cc: andrew clarke , Javier Vasquez , Beech Rintoul Subject: Re: [freebsd-questions] Looking @ upgrades mechanisms... X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2008 16:22:57 -0000 On Tuesday 02 December 2008 17:13:58 andrew clarke wrote: > On Tue 2008-12-02 09:28:44 UTC+0100, Mel (fbsd.questions@rachie.is-a-geek.net) wrote: > > Portupgrade -PP is detrimental for bandwidth. It's not really > > portupgrade's fault (well, partially, it shouldn't offer the feature), > > because it will quite often download Latest/foo.tbz, unpack it entirely > > and then say "oops, I downloaded this useless package which is older or > > equal to what you have installed". > > Yes, this happens. -PP is not ideal for regular updates but it's > still useful for when you have a new FreeBSD install with no packages > installed, and want to get up and running quickly, grabbing the most > recent binaries of all your favourite ports instead of building them > all from source. That's infinitely slower than pkg_add -r . -- Mel Problem with today's modular software: they start with the modules and never get to the software part.