From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jun 11 10:24:34 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 827DC329F4C for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:24:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10009046901.ba766e6095807c3056779f38b154478c@email-od.com) Received: from s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com (s1-b0c6.socketlabs.email-od.com [142.0.176.198]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 49jKjB0Q2Lz4Mxf for ; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:24:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from 4250.82.1d4c10009046901.ba766e6095807c3056779f38b154478c@email-od.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=email-od.com;i=@email-od.com;s=dkim; c=relaxed/relaxed; q=dns/txt; t=1591871070; x=1594463070; h=content-transfer-encoding:content-type:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-thread-info; bh=Tai4NQtBsLMNtffVFaL9o9Ux10gA8txn4bbAOFdoKj4=; b=iDHPjfqzxNAj8ivm3ZnUFYLaW/7ceEEADftcFd+J49l6eeCPRbKtvFVvlk0sqkdsGDIS9/7+YfZ4SEm4HQBki4TeV98zj8RakeSuS2yly00J5fbWqpC9K3wUCscjakCadF+AydzRxzau6M1qzonWRCYNGWrDs0qxFrXpWnRXMz8= X-Thread-Info: NDI1MC45Mi4xZDRjMTAwMDkwNDY5MDEuZnJlZWJzZC1xdWVzdGlvbnM9ZnJlZWJzZC5vcmc= Received: from r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com (r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com [142.0.191.1]) by mxsg2.email-od.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 11 Jun 2020 06:24:20 -0400 Received: from smtp.lan.sohara.org (EMTPY [185.202.17.215]) by r1.us-east-1.aws.in.socketlabs.com with ESMTP(version=Tls12 cipher=Aes256 bits=256); Thu, 11 Jun 2020 06:24:19 -0400 Received: from [192.168.63.1] (helo=steve.lan.sohara.org) by smtp.lan.sohara.org with smtp (Exim 4.92.3 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1jjKNe-0001kT-Ka for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 Jun 2020 11:24:18 +0100 Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 11:24:18 +0100 From: Steve O'Hara-Smith To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: freebsd vs. netbsd Message-Id: <20200611112418.0bb0c896b685c84ed8d6a8f6@sohara.org> In-Reply-To: References: <171506d5-19aa-359e-c21d-f07257c52ebd@freenetMail.de> <6a4f6a15-ec43-03f6-1a41-a109e445f026@anatoli.ws> <00225a04-237d-9051-9aea-12c192106a20@anatoli.ws> <373EDB20-C750-42E2-A41B-EA61F6E49807@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20200609120136.00005b3c@seibercom.net> <2393a1e0-b073-950a-78be-9f57d8e9934b@anatoli.ws> <20200610063555.00003707@seibercom.net> <82F57D0D-E0EC-49F7-824E-20A296C9F549@kicp.uchicago.edu> <250b853a-b436-0e99-b05c-9abd6b6019ef@panix.com> <20200611070630.2cb42786.freebsd@edvax.de> <20200611091449.383e1d83@archlinux> <53a6833e-db63-2395-4d2e-f05a9b1fb269@boxsci.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49jKjB0Q2Lz4Mxf X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=email-od.com header.s=dkim header.b=iDHPjfqz; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of 4250.82.1d4c10009046901.ba766e6095807c3056779f38b154478c@email-od.com designates 142.0.176.198 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=4250.82.1d4c10009046901.ba766e6095807c3056779f38b154478c@email-od.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.08 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.002]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[email-od.com:s=dkim]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MV_CASE(0.50)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[sohara.org]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-0.996]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip4:142.0.176.0/20]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[email-od.com:+]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.38)[-0.382]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[142.0.176.198:from]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[steve@sohara.org,4250.82.1d4c10009046901.ba766e6095807c3056779f38b154478c@email-od.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:7381, ipnet:142.0.176.0/22, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[steve@sohara.org, 4250.82.1d4c10009046901.ba766e6095807c3056779f38b154478c@email-od.com] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.33 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:24:34 -0000 On Thu, 11 Jun 2020 05:53:30 -0400 Aryeh Friedman wrote: > As I said before the top posting rule really does fly in the face of > convention for most non-technical/mailing list oriented mail users. However it is a convention older than the public internet and one that is very common in mailing lists and universal on USENET. So since this is a mailing list it is a good idea for newcomers to be aware of the conventions and the reasons for them. These are not FreeBSD conventions, nor is asking people to follow it one, they are mailing list and USENET conventions older and wider than FreeBSD. -- Steve O'Hara-Smith