From owner-freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Sat Dec 17 15:06:30 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF1DFC84F68 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from shepard.synsport.com (mail.synsport.com [208.69.230.148]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CB5871BDC for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:06:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.contact@marino.st) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (ip72-204-83-236.fv.ks.cox.net [72.204.83.236]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shepard.synsport.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03E9D43C0B; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 09:05:19 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: The ports collection has some serious issues To: Hrant Dadivanyan References: Cc: FreeBSD Mailing List , tingox@gmail.com Reply-To: marino@freebsd.org From: John Marino Message-ID: <99aa1f8b-066a-088b-e4ce-63bb2d291236@marino.st> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 09:06:29 -0600 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.1.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 161217-0, 12/17/2016), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-BeenThere: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting software to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 15:06:31 -0000 On 12/17/2016 01:49, Hrant Dadivanyan wrote: >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 6:42 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: >>>> On 2016-Dec-15 19:31:22 +0100, list-freebsd-ports at jyborn.se wrote: >>>> Interestingly, the most vocal proponent of deleting portmaster and >>>> portupgrade is the author/maintainer of synch. >> >> It's not interesting at all. Synth was in a large part created because >> people were irrationally sticking with portmaster and more frighteningly >> gaining new users. >> > > Please don't judge what's rational and what's not, because it's community > and when many people, even irrationally from your POV, sticking with > portmaster, then it's worth to consider and look for a way to keep it up. Why don't *you* look for a way to keep it up? TZ already said he is looking to drop maintainership. Now *YOU* have the chance to do more than order volunteers around. > >> The point is that these tools are in great shape and to imply otherwise >> needs proof. It's portmaster that's not receiving updates. >> > > In current shape it works well for many people (and demanded by) in > community, so why should it be removed ? You can warn as much as you want > against, but you can't decide to remove. > > Hrant Hrant, you must work on your reading comprehension. Nobody has talked about removing portmaster, at all. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus