From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Jan 19 12:28:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30836ED3529 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abrancatelli@schema31.it) Received: from benzedrina.milano.schema31.it (benzedrina.schema31.it [IPv6:2001:470:6d:3ff::2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "benzedrina.milano.schema31.it", Issuer "benzedrina.milano.schema31.it" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B56657F343 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:28:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from abrancatelli@schema31.it) Received: from smtp.schema31.it (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by benzedrina.milano.schema31.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w0JCSfRQ011823 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:28:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from abrancatelli@schema31.it) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=schema31.it; s=gCloud; t=1516364921; bh=Rltjb66ehOXN10whVyuOHX5t4fb4XKm3W64BK00sT38=; h=Date:From:To:Subject; b=CaXcPDyyO2+PwAtEKAR4o/SXfNpJRpdIyOuWAZMLkO1m4y3ETSV1QQYod8eXpDFpy YfMI1NU7Ri0htaRpgXudnyeBk/8RVuqUd4OxVMIIvp1KiEOko8elREhbXGZu3nw/v1 p/sJ4I0twQTDvqziN7tyJfkv9xqN6nTs+YuohivMuTSHJ5w/y4mQdAOmpwRQMl2tQx GmyRK0wTW1kVtfd95nsMqcPfzL+UW49d8rTcZcn6dXN6vml70I+mEMrPJ5ZSq3CtVh FvM34QKaclZECPIPFOiobTrDtRx4PJvWsKt5Sw+B27kHHIqf0f6u86xI9w2wyIYLwK NPJ0wwiUOuVVQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 13:28:41 +0100 From: Andrea Brancatelli To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Ancient FreeBSD update path Organization: Schema31 s.r.l. Message-ID: <03c972a8f098b1b547da690efaad771f@schema31.it> X-Sender: abrancatelli@schema31.it User-Agent: Roundcube Webmail/1.3.4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.25 X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.25 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:28:46 -0000 Hello guys. I have a couple of ancient FreeBSD install that I have to bring into this century (read either 10.4 or 11.1) :-) I'm talking about a FreeBSD 8.0-RELEASE-p4 and a couple of FreeBSD 9.3-RELEASE-p53. What upgrade strategy would you suggest? Direct jump into the future (8 -> 11)? Progressive steps (8 -> 9 -> 10 -> 11)? Boiling water on the HDs? :-) Thanks, any suggestion in more than welcome. -- Andrea Brancatelli From owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Fri Jan 19 12:59:22 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A9EBED45FC for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:59:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelp@bsquare.com) Received: from NAM03-DM3-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com (mail-dm3nam03on0725.outbound.protection.outlook.com [IPv6:2a01:111:f400:fe49::725]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mail.protection.outlook.com", Issuer "Microsoft IT TLS CA 4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B957480774 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2018 12:59:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from michaelp@bsquare.com) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=BsquareO365.onmicrosoft.com; s=selector1-bsquare-com; h=From:Date:Subject:Message-ID:Content-Type:MIME-Version; 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Networking wasn't avalable when the system was running 10.3 kernel with 9.3 userland so I did that part of the update on the console. That system started life as a FreeBSD 5.x system and got left to rot at that version for a long time because it was an internal system with no external security exposure. I gradually upgraded it (using source builds) from major version to major version until I got to 9.3 and then did the 9.3 to 10.3 as a binary upgrade. Only other trap I fell into with was packages. The system uses ldap for auth although fortunately it does have some local network accessible accounts. ldap auth was broken until I did the package update as the 9.3 pam_ldap modules caused SSH to delay password based authentication and the auth processes seg-faulted. > What upgrade strategy would you suggest? > > Direct jump into the future (8 -> 11)? Progressive steps (8 -> 9 -> 10 > -> 11)? Boiling water on the HDs? :-) > If freebsd-update will do an upgrade from 8 to 10 or 8 to 11 and you have console access it ought to work. The upgrade process can be rolled back if the system doesn't like the new kernel for some reason and nothing gets installed anywhere else until the second stage of the upgrade. I'd probably go via 8->9.3->10/11 as those are the upgrade paths that were well tested. Also don't forget the full system backups before starting. :) Mike