From owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Mar 31 23:08:14 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B73716A4CE for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from pmbmail.wandata.com (pmbmail.wandata.com [196.25.220.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 23D2E43D31 for ; Wed, 31 Mar 2004 23:08:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from moe@wandata.com) Received: (qmail 25493 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2004 07:08:06 -0000 Received: from moleman.za.net (HELO supermole) (196.25.220.190) by pmbmail.wandata.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2004 07:08:06 -0000 Message-ID: <003a01c417b8$21573080$bedc19c4@wandata.com> From: "Allen Versfeld" To: References: <014b01c4179d$ff9b7920$c84b14ac@mh2k><20040401143500.X1840@satin.sensation.net.au> <20040401064022.GP67839@manor.msen.com> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 09:08:27 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Subject: Re: Bandwidth management X-BeenThere: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Internet Services Providers List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2004 07:08:14 -0000 ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael R. Wayne To: Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2004 8:40 AM Subject: Re: Bandwidth management > On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 02:36:52PM +1000, Rowan Crowe wrote: > > > > If you can find an archive of freebsd-isp that goes back several years > > then you'll see that is pretty much Dennis' usual manner. Nice customer > > service, eh? > > Unlike a lot of people, I really appreciate Dennis's attitude. > While I have had him lambaste me for being an idiot when I asked a > stupid question, it's actually a welcome change to be work with a > company that has sufficient confidence in their product to be that > arrogant. His attitude is that if you are not sufficiently talented > to be able to figure it out, go use someone else's stuff. You need > to understand that he doesn't NEED your business - but if you ask > nicely, he will sell to you. It's your responsibility to understand > what you are getting into. > > And don't expect anyone at ETinc to do anything for you for free. > Why should they? > That's fair enough. But... does he tell you to screw yourself before or after he's taken your money?