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>Unless you can provide an argument showing that this is necessary to
>the correct operation of a FreeBSD system, I'll simply ignore your
>contribution to this discussion.

As an administrator, when I'm debugging a problem with a system, I tend
to look at other users' processes a lot.  Setting this to zero would
force me to run more stuff as root... isn't it a better security process
to run *less* stuff as root?

Just the other day, I got email from another user pointing out a runaway
process of mine which I would never have noticed.  Perhaps you would
assert that I should have noticed it, or that the system should have
a monitoring system that noticed it and sent me email, or that I should
never run programs that sometimes run away when unexpectedly disconnected
from the terminal, or something, but the social aspect worked fine in
this case.

  Bill

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