From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Aug 7 20:40:50 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id UAA18599 for chat-outgoing; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 20:40:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from luke.pmr.com (luke.pmr.com [207.170.114.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA18594 for ; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 20:40:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bob@localhost) by luke.pmr.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA14789; Thu, 7 Aug 1997 22:40:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <19970807224013.12227@pmr.com> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 1997 22:40:13 -0500 From: Bob Willcox To: Greg Lehey Cc: hoek@hwcn.org, FreeBSD Chat Subject: Re: Status of USB, TX chipset, PIIX3, etc. Reply-To: Bob Willcox References: <199708080139.LAA19618@freebie.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.81 In-Reply-To: <199708080139.LAA19618@freebie.lemis.com>; from Greg Lehey on Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 11:09:23AM +0930 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk On Fri, Aug 08, 1997 at 11:09:23AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: > Tim Vanderhoek writes: > > On Fri, 8 Aug 1997, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > >> Isn't it comforting to see that even Big Blue wasn't able to continue > >> ruling the world? > > > > Maybe. If Microsoft was what followed IBM, then I shudder to > > think of what will follow Microsoft. > > Hmmm. I don't know. IBM was pretty hated in their day. But I > understand your concern :-) What, exactly, did IBM do during those days that made it so hated? You see, I am a retired IBMer (veteran of 30 years) and probably have a _very_ different perspective wrt IBM (I still believe that it is a good company, if sometimes misguided and suffering from its shear size). OTOH, I find Microsoft most apauling. While with IBM I often heard horror stories about how impossible it was to deal with Microsoft. Everything had to be their way or not at all. There was no possibility of compromise. Of course this is really just hearsay, since I never worked in an area that had to deal directly with Microsoft (thank God). > > > Anyways... Even the popular press seems to be going after MS, > > now... On the Apple-MS announcement, today's paper went on to > > list previous companies that were squished after making dealing > > with MS. > > See? The worm is turning. > > Greg -- Bob Willcox Deliberation, n.: The act of examining one's bread bob@luke.pmr.com to determine which side it is buttered on. Austin, TX -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"