From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Wed Nov 4 22:19:29 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D17DA265D4 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 22:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vixie@tisf.net) Received: from family.redbarn.org (family.redbarn.org [IPv6:2001:559:8000:cd::5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4AC671C50 for ; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 22:19:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vixie@tisf.net) Received: from linux-85bq.suse (c-67-180-164-69.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [67.180.164.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by family.redbarn.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 5D75113B25; Wed, 4 Nov 2015 22:19:28 +0000 (UTC) From: Paul Vixie To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: Re: C bhyve administration tool Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:19:27 -0800 Message-ID: <1557160.7OrEWMRSrv@linux-85bq.suse> Organization: TISF User-Agent: KMail/4.14.10 (Linux/4.1.12-1-default; KDE/4.14.10; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <20151103221930.GA50869@debnath.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2015 22:19:29 -0000 On Wednesday, November 04, 2015 09:56:53 PM Andreas Nilsson wrote: > Well, > > in all honesty, getting vm managers to kvm equivalents ( ie virt-manager ) > should not be a goal. virt-manager and friends are terrible. Please > envision something better! > > Where it is hosted and what language it is written in doesn't really matter. > > Just my 2 cents. i'll add a nickel to those thoughts. libvirt isn't a library, virsh isn't a shell, and it all sucks so bad it blows. bhyve deserves something new. -- P. Vixie