From owner-freebsd-hackers Sat Sep 27 10:05:12 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id KAA02379 for hackers-outgoing; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:05:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [195.1.171.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA02372 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 1997 10:05:06 -0700 (PDT) From: sthaug@nethelp.no Received: (qmail 18014 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Sep 1997 17:05:01 +0000 (GMT) To: rgrimes@GndRsh.aac.dev.com Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 'fxp' driver/hardware lossage (was Re: Alexander B. Povol's mail) In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 27 Sep 1997 09:47:15 -0700 (PDT)" References: <199709271647.JAA20293@GndRsh.aac.dev.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.28.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:05:01 +0200 Message-ID: <18012.875379901@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk > > Nope. A hub doesn't do anything with collisions - it just propagates > > them bit by bit. The NICs sense the collision. > > Better go think so more about that... it depends on the hub! Some hubs > that have partitioning ability will automagically partition out someone > who starts to transmit if the hub is sending data out that port, this > is called autopartitioning and is used to stop baligerant (sp) mau's > or Jabberers(sp). Sure - I agree it depends on the hub. But the basic task of the hub is to propagate everything bit by bit - including collisions. And if you buy a noname cheapie hub, it won't do much more than that. > If you want something that really tries to ``prevent'' this you want > a switch and not a hub, and you want full-duplex non-simplex NIC cards > in every box connected to that switch, and no I'm not just talking > about 100Base stuff here, it applies to both 10 and 100Base ethernet > over TP. Yup. But for normal, half-duplex Ethernet you *don't* want to prevent collisions :-) Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no