From owner-freebsd-sparc64@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 18 22:46:23 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A84316A4CE for ; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:46:23 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (bgo1smout1.broadpark.no [217.13.4.94]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B81843D46 for ; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:46:22 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from torfing@broadpark.no) Received: from bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no ([217.13.4.93]) by bgo1smout1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with ESMTP id <0I8X00366WAUH550@bgo1smout1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:40:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from kg-work.kg4.no ([80.202.72.152]) by bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.1 HotFix 0.05 (built Oct 21 2004)) with SMTP id <0I8X004OZWOFLAA0@bgo1sminn1.broadpark.no> for freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org; Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:48:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 23:43:30 +0100 From: Torfinn Ingolfsen X-Face: "t9w2,-X@O^I`jVW\sonI3.,36KBLZE*AL[y9lL[PyFD*r_S:dIL9c[8Y>V42R0"!"yb_zN,f#%.[PYYNq;m"_0v;~rUM2Yy!zmkh)3&U|u!=T(zyv,MHJv"nDH>OJ`t(@mil461d_B'Uo|'nMwlKe0Mv=kvV?Nh@>Hb<3s_z2jYgZhPb@?Wi^x1a~Hplz1.zH In-reply-to: <20041218174215.O1763@april.chuckr.org> To: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org Message-id: <20041218234330.2cdf348d.torfinn.ingolfsen@broadpark.no> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 1.0.0beta3 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <20041121134911.X1330@april.chuckr.org> <20041216140507.A4675@dragon.ender.com> <20041218213457.GB13337@xor.obsecurity.org> <20041218174215.O1763@april.chuckr.org> Subject: Re: installation X-BeenThere: freebsd-sparc64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the Sparc List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 18 Dec 2004 22:46:23 -0000 On Sat, 18 Dec 2004 17:44:28 -0500 (EST) Chuck Robey wrote: > I'm sorry, I shouldn't kvetch, the rest is top quality, but the folks > involved in the Solaris port are, I think, too well acquainted with > soldering guns and serial terminals. Serial terminals? People familar with other platforms / hardware than i386 are usually familiar with serial terminals. Not only is this the most general way of doing useful work whenever a new operating system is in its infancy on a new platform, it is also a reliable and easy way to get debugging info "out" of the platform when needed. I find that people with only experience from the i386 platform, and no experience with serial terminals are the odd ones. Just my 0.02$. -- Torfinn Ingolfsen, Norway